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  • Sunking
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    Originally posted by Yaryman
    Where exactly do you plan on relocated the millions of people who will be displaced by higher water levels?
    Same thing they have done for thousands of years, adapt like animals have done for millions of years. You cannot stop it.

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  • Yaryman
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    Originally posted by Sunking
    Worked great for the dinosaurs when CO2 levels were 5 times higher than they are now. More CO2 means a greener wetter planet that can support a lot more life than it can now. What are you afraid of?
    You always seem to forgot about the hotter part of the equation. It should be "greener, wetter", and HOTTER.

    Where exactly do you plan on relocated the millions of people who will be displaced by higher water levels?

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  • Sunking
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    Originally posted by jflorey2
    Maybe we could have another forum where you could post your denier BS and leave this forum for discussion of solar.
    Not going to happen. Don't be so gullible and believe in propaganda. If you are really so worried about CO2 and an engineer you know nuclear is the answer.

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  • jflorey2
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    Originally posted by Sunking
    Worked great for the dinosaurs when CO2 levels were 5 times higher than they are now.
    Yep. And it's great for putting out fires and carbonating soda. None of which has anything to do with whether it's a good thing for people.

    Maybe we could have another forum where you could post your denier BS and leave this forum for discussion of solar.

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  • Sunking
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    Originally posted by jflorey2
    Yep. And smoking is good for you because it calms your nerves. A tobacco company doctor said so, so you better believe him.
    Worked great for the dinosaurs when CO2 levels were 5 times higher than they are now. More CO2 means a greener wetter planet that can support a lot more life than it can now. What are you afraid of?

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  • jflorey2
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    Originally posted by Sunking
    Good ole Mother Earth can handle any amount of CO2.
    Yep. And smoking is good for you because it calms your nerves. A tobacco company doctor said so, so you better believe him.

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  • bcroe
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    Originally posted by MikeInRialto
    I'm sure the answer is out there but hidden like the cure for cancer - there is much more profit in the treatment than the cure. Money is the root of all evil
    Reading Solar Panel Talk can be quite entertaining; its best not to get too serious. Usually SK gets my top rating. Bruce Roe

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  • MikeInRialto
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    I'm sure the answer is out there but hidden like the cure for cancer - there is much more profit in the treatment than the cure. Money is the root of all evil

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  • Sunking
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    Originally posted by jflorey2
    The goal isn't to produce zero CO2. That's impossible. The goal is to produce an amount of CO2 that the biosphere can handle.
    Good ole Mother Earth can handle any amount of CO2. Man just makes chit up to control the public and take their money.

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  • jflorey2
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    Originally posted by diogenes
    each person also produces CO2 each time he exhales. is that a good argument to stop breathing?
    No.
    Not to mention the amount of co2 produced by catalytic converters, should we remove them?
    No.
    I know use an electric car, but they only go 100 miles on a charge in the wilds of tennessee, that makes them almost unusable.
    If you really want an electric car in Tennessee, get a Volt and use electric for short trips, and use gas for longer trips. Or get a Model S with a 250 mile range. Or if CO2 reduction is your goal, get a car fueled with natural gas. Or get a Prius. Or get a diesel truck and use biodiesel, which produced a lot less net CO2 than petroleum fuels.

    The goal isn't to produce zero CO2. That's impossible. The goal is to produce an amount of CO2 that the biosphere can handle.

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  • DanKegel
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    Originally posted by diogenes

    each person also produces CO2 each time he exhales. is that a good argument to stop breathing?

    Not to mention the amount of co2 produced by catalytic converters, should we remove them? I know use an electric car, but they only go 100 miles on a charge in the wilds of tennessee, that makes them almost unusable.
    I don't know if you're serious, but here's a serious answer.

    The key question is always "where does the co2 cone from". If the answer is "from recent photosynthesis" then it's not directly a problem.

    So exhaling is OK because the co2 came from corn that was grown in the last century.

    Catalytic converters do produce nitrous oxide, which is a potent greenhouse gas. A catalyst to deal with that could be developed, but as you point out, electric cars are a better choice when their range suffices.
    FWIW the Bolt and Tesla can go 200 miles, which would let me visit my sister in San Diego.
    And plug-in hybrids burn gas on long trips, so they emit no co2 on short trips.

    So, no, reducing co2 emissions is not absurd, if that's what you were asking.

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  • diogenes
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    Originally posted by jflorey2
    An excellent point, and I'd also mention that cement manufacture is a big CO2 generator. It is the third largest emitter of CO2 in the US and accounts for about 5% of the manmade CO2 produced worldwide.
    each person also produces CO2 each time he exhales. is that a good argument to stop breathing?

    Not to mention the amount of co2 produced by catalytic converters, should we remove them? I know use an electric car, but they only go 100 miles on a charge in the wilds of tennessee, that makes them almost unusable.

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  • DanKegel
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    Originally posted by Yaryman
    On a side note, the search function is not quite what one would hope.
    Alas, forum search does indeed blow chunks, but it does that on every forum I've ever used. It's pretty easy to use google, e.g. 'site:www.solarpaneltalk.com foo', for when you really need good search.

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  • cebury
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    Originally posted by DanKegel
    +1 SunEagle's posts are always interesting and respectful. .
    +1
    From me as well

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  • Yaryman
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    Originally posted by SunEagle
    Besides I have been accused on this forum of being part of the "flat earth society". Regardless of what I am called I will admit I am not convinced as you and others and think that people have a major role in climate change.
    Sorry you got the impression I felt you were a member of the Flat Earth Society, I don't.

    That reference was meant completely and emphatically for Mr. more co2 is good for everybody.

    On a side note, the search function is not quite what one would hope.

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