Panasonic residential storage

[silversaver]

Very interesting. The same battery as the Tesla Model S but listed for only 87 miles of range? Great German engineering of the rest of the system?

Does capacity ring the bell?

Dave MB battery is 24 Kwh vs 60 and 85Kw of Tesla. The MB EV cost half of what a Tesla does and 1/3 the range at 90 miles.

My point is Panasonic is the technology, net Tesla. The Roadster they started with was a Lotus stripped down of its drive train, and replaced with electric drive train

B Class actually using a 36kWh capacity battery but only allow charge up to 28kWh. With range extended mode enable battery charges up to 33kWh for addition 15 to 17 miles on top of 87 miles advertised.

Mercedes build these EDs for CAFE rule, one ED = two AMG to save $$$$

[Sunking]

OK, and maybe a different BMS and thermal system too?

Possible, definitely a BMS. Thermal unknown, still vaporware.

[inetdog]

Same Panasonic cell, fewer of them.

OK, and maybe a different BMS and thermal system too?

[Sunking]

Very interesting. The same battery as the Tesla Model S but listed for only 87 miles of range? Great German engineering of the rest of the system?

Dave MB battery is 24 Kwh vs 60 and 85Kw of Tesla. The MB EV cost half of what a Tesla does and 1/3 the range at 90 miles.

My point is Panasonic is the technology, net Tesla. The Roadster they started with was a Lotus stripped down of its drive train, and replaced with electric drive train

[donald]

It's the same cells, not the same battery. Mercedes owned part ot Tesla until recently, and Tesla built some stuff for Mercedes.

[tehan]

Very interesting. The same battery as the Tesla Model S but listed for only 87 miles of range? Great German engineering of the rest of the system?

Same Panasonic cell, fewer of them.

[inetdog]

Huh? B Class. The battery is the same battery the Tesla S uses licensed from Panasonic to [COLOR=#252525][FONT=sans-serif]Deutsche Accumotive GmbH & Co

Very interesting. The same battery as the Tesla Model S but listed for only 87 miles of range? Great German engineering of the rest of the system?

[Sunking]

But do you really believe Mercedes isn't working on it's own EV?

Huh? B Class. The battery is the same battery the Tesla S uses licensed from Panasonic to Deutsche Accumotive GmbH & Co

So what does Tesla, Mercedes Benz, and Powerwall all have in common?

A Panasonic battery.

Doh! Darn if you had a V8 you could have figured it out.

[Sunking]

Someone's head must have just exploded!

Already new it, thus my Mercedes reference a 5th grader could have picked up on.

[Sunking]

So Panasonic has a battery that can deliver 2kW for 4 hours.

Wonder if anyone has noticed almost the sam espec as a Powerwall. Wonder why they both have the same crappy 2 Kw peak demand? Wonder if there could be anything in common? Beats me other than Panasonic makes all Tesla batteries. What could possible be goin gon?

Me thinks nothing but vapor. But folks are gullible and like to hear themselves.

[SunEagle]

Someone's head must have just exploded!

Well up to a month ago just about no one made a home battery system or at least didn't advertised it.

[Ian S]

And now Mercedes is jumping in, too?

http://www.pv-magazine.com/news/deta...#axzz3c6xilYIM

Someone's head must have just exploded!

[SunEagle]

And now Mercedes is jumping in, too?

http://www.pv-magazine.com/news/deta...#axzz3c6xilYIM

Looks like everyone is trying to capture a budding new market. Hopefully people do the calculations first before they just jump in and purchase.

[DanKegel]

And now Mercedes is jumping in, too?

http://www.pv-magazine.com/news/details/beitrag/daimler-enters-energy-storage-market-with-mercedes-benz-branded-batteries--_100019715/#axzz3c6xilYIM

[SunEagle]

Good questions. Evidently they think they can make it work. I wish them luck, and am looking forward to results from early adopters.

I will also be watching. I know this is just the start so in time that battery will hopefully evolve into a better storage system.