Panasonic residential storage

[Legacy]

Do you get the $115 low-income carbon tax credit?

http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/topic.page?id=E9258ADE1AE3423080A1B2674F4EAABD

I think the carbon tax on gasoline is 6.7 cents per litre,

http://www.fin.gov.bc.ca/tbs/tp/climate/A4.htm

Let's see; that credit would pay for the carbon tax on $115 / $0.0067 = 17,100 gallons of gasoline.
How big is your tank?

Let see first of all "The maximum annual payment amount for the period July 2015 to June 2016 is $115.50 for yourself"
no I don't , most I have ever received I think was about $60 that amount would not fill my tank at $1.29 L , I cant recall
any place in Canada let alone where you are getting gas for 6.7 cents a litre
don't forget I pay carbon tax on propane for heat and if you think the companies who deliver products that I consume
, food ect , are doing it for free you need to rethink how economies work , and by the way learn math. 115/ by what?

I am unsure what it will be this year but last year it was $57.74

[DanKegel]

A couple of points for you to ponder,there have been no usable tax cuts for
low income people as I would know Iam one.

... as far as the pittance they send back in a check for low income people such as
myself it wont fill the tank on my truck with gas even once.

Do you get the $115 low-income carbon tax credit?

http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/topic.page?id=E9258ADE1AE3423080A1B2674F4EAABD

I think the carbon tax on gasoline is 6.7 cents per litre,

http://www.fin.gov.bc.ca/tbs/tp/climate/A4.htm

Let's see; that credit would pay for the carbon tax on $115 / $0.0067 = 17,100 litres of gasoline.
How big is your tank?

[Legacy]

Dont know if anyone wants input from someone who is from B.C.and is living
with this rediculous "carbon tax" But here I go.

First I read that study and it is so full of bs I barely know where to start.
But to quote it they use such "real" science "Empirical and simulation models"
As person that know one or two things about models is that so many are GIGO.

A couple of points for you to ponder,there have been no usable tax cuts for
low income people as I would know Iam one. The back story on that is I am
permantly ill from actual pollution that the government will not do a damn
thing about , I might give the rest of that story in the future,but I
digress.

If any of you think that gov employees work for free to collect and distribute
this tax then you are delusional,there is a lot of other overhead as well.

It just cost me more for the propane for heating and the gas for my truck and
as far as the pittance they send back in a check for low income people such as
myself it wont fill the tank on my truck with gas even once. By the way the price
at the pump for gas is $1.29L ($5.08 imperial gal) ($4.88 for a U.S. gal)we are
paying as if the barrel of oil was still around $100.
This also has translated into increases in food and other products, they dont deliver
this for free you know.

As for other taxes and fees they have stayed the same (sales tax)or gone up (medical premiums)
and another point of interest is the government run power company has been paying more
into the gov general revenue, a back door tax if you will for the water that flows
through the dams.At the same time we are getting increases in electicity rate
every 4 to six months.

They keep telling people its for repair and maintenance, boy can I tell you some
stories about that bs.

So in closing everything has gone up because of this CO2 tax , the proper name,
and as far as a certain person calling people "climate change denialists" I find
that discusting as they seen to be the one that is denying that it changed before
man was burning fossil fuels,by the way I have a lot of free time to study this
and another hobby of mine paleobiology and it has given me insite into the fact
we are no where near as warm as the earth has been in the past when flora and fauna
life exploded let alone the past several thousand years.

If this person want to use the correct term not the rev al gore term then use CAGW
sceptic.

[kevcor620]

Because we are free for now but loosing freedom daily, , and Infidels.

I've read enough of your posts to know that you are too smart to actually believe that foolish Bush-ism, but good try. Does Exxon/Mobile send you free replacement knee pads for every 100 posts?

All welfare for the those who can afford it without the poor and blue collar support.

Hence, ITC, net-metering, and rebates opening the RE door to the blue collar crowd. IMO, we should be doing more, not less, of these incentives to give the poor and working class an alternative choice to your beloved utility cartel who enjoy over $550 Billion in "welfare".

[Sunking]

Why do you think we are targeted by terrorists?

Because we are free for now but loosing freedom daily, , and Infidels.

Net-metering, ITC's, rebates, and other incentives is how we open that door and plant our flag in the soil. .

All welfare for the those who can afford it without the poor and blue collar support.

[kevcor620]

Not our problem and we have no say in what other countries do as they are sovereign and could care less what you or the USA thinks or does.

As long as we are an economic superpower, what we do does remain relevant, and other countries have no choice but to care. Why do you think we are targeted by terrorists? The simple point I was trying to make was that the development and eventual widespread deployment of renewable energy is a gold-mine that some other country will enrich from unless we do it first. Net-metering, ITC's, rebates, and other incentives is how we open that door and plant our flag in the soil. So lets not stomp our feet up and down and whine like little babies that net-metering is unfair to utilities. Utilities have PLENTY of unfair advantages through subsidy and regulatory programs. the incentives for renewables are a drop in the bucket compared to what the utility cartel gets, and we should be encouraging more of it, rather than pouting about it.

[Sunking]

However, that is not the case with many of our economic partners in this new global economy. In fact, some countries generate more than 50% of their electricity from petroleum.

Not our problem and we have no say in what other countries do as they are sovereign and could care less what you or the USA thinks or does.

[kevcor620]

and as far as "not knowing what you are talking about", I think the person who made that statement should look into a mirror rather than a computer screen.

[kevcor620]

granted, while 67% of electricity IN THE UNITED STATES is generated trough fossil fuels, it is mostly coal and natural gas, with a small percentage of oil. However, that is not the case with many of our economic partners in this new global economy. In fact, some countries generate more than 50% of their electricity from petroleum. My point is that the continued development of renewable energy to lessen long term dependance of oil (and other non-renewables) is a positive and worthy goal for not only environmental, but also economic and diplomatic reasons. I hope that the U.S. leads the way in this, as it has the potential to be the new global economic "bubble" that the internet was in the 90's.

[Sunking]

um.. ok.. wow.

You really have no idea then do you? The USA electric generation fuel source. The 1% petroleum is diesel for Hawaii and coastal islands. Solar at .11% can be ignored as it contributes nothing. No one would ever miss it.

[SunEagle]

um.. ok.. wow.

That is correct for the US. Oil is not a fuel used by Utilities to generate electricity.

Now for those Hybrid cars, that is a different story.

[kevcor620]

So WTF does oil have to do with Electricity Generation? NOTHING.

um.. ok.. wow.

[inetdog]

You believe anything you want to hear.

Whereas you believe only the things you want to hear? Very similar in some ways.

[Sunking]

Not at all. According to https://nicholasinstitute.duke.edu/s...15-04_full.pdf,


So it's revenue-neutral to within about 15%. Actually the cuts were a bit bigger than the carbon tax! And if Canadians can do it, Americans can too, don't you think?

You believe anything you want to hear.

[DanKegel]

Oxymoron.

Not at all. According to https://nicholasinstitute.duke.edu/s...15-04_full.pdf,

Between its inception in 2008 and 2015, the BC carbon tax has
generated C$6.1 billion in revenue, yet corresponding tax cuts have been more than C$7.1 billion.

So it's revenue-neutral to within about 15%. Actually the cuts were a bit bigger than the carbon tax! And if Canadians can do it, Americans can too, don't you think?