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  • solaroad
    Junior Member
    • May 2015
    • 5

    #1

    Portable solar generator with integrated storage.

    What does everyone think about an all-in-one portable solar generator with integrated storage?

    Last edited by russ; 05-13-2015, 01:58 PM. Reason: removed link
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  • russ
    Solar Fanatic
    • Jul 2009
    • 10360

    #2
    Congrats! You win the "Dumb Idea of the Year" award!

    A small portion of the cells will ever be aimed optimally - expensive junk
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    • russ
      Solar Fanatic
      • Jul 2009
      • 10360

      #3
      Post only in one thread - I just removed the second post and your links.

      If you wish to advertise contact user name Jason.
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      • solaroad
        Junior Member
        • May 2015
        • 5

        #4
        Originally posted by russ
        Congrats! You win the "Dumb Idea of the Year" award!

        A small portion of the cells will ever be aimed optimally - expensive junk
        Hi Rus!

        Thank you for the constructive criticism!

        Which portion of the cells are you talking about?
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        • russ
          Solar Fanatic
          • Jul 2009
          • 10360

          #5
          Originally posted by solaroad
          Hi Rus!

          Thank you for the constructive criticism!

          Which portion of the cells are you talking about?
          80% plus I suppose - solar cells can only put out rated power when aimed directly at the sun at solar noon - most of these will not be.

          Not to worry - you can try crowd funding - there are enough green fools there you can probably rake in a fortune.
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          • solaroad
            Junior Member
            • May 2015
            • 5

            #6
            Originally posted by russ
            80% plus I suppose - solar cells can only put out rated power when aimed directly at the sun at solar noon - most of these will not be.

            Not to worry - you can try crowd funding - there are enough green fools there you can probably rake in a fortune.

            I am not the inventer, but as I understand, the cells are curved so that the sun is able to hit from sun up to sun down.
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            • russ
              Solar Fanatic
              • Jul 2009
              • 10360

              #7
              Originally posted by solaroad
              I am not the inventer, but as I understand, the cells are curved so that the sun is able to hit from sun up to sun down.
              That happens to be total BS
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              • solaroad
                Junior Member
                • May 2015
                • 5

                #8
                Originally posted by russ
                That happens to be total BS
                The cells are a-Si which is excellent at absorbing indirect light. Unlike Mono and poly crystalline flat panels which have to be at the correct angle of incidence towards the sun to allow for peak power generation. With flat panels you are correct in saying that the power curve peaks and drops off in the afternoon, but with a-Si we begin generation at first light, plateau, and continue to generate until last light. There is no sharp spike in the power curve in this device. This effectively allows you to generate for longer periods throughout the day.
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                • russ
                  Solar Fanatic
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 10360

                  #9
                  Originally posted by solaroad
                  The cells are a-Si which is excellent at absorbing indirect light. Unlike Mono and poly crystalline flat panels which have to be at the correct angle of incidence towards the sun to allow for peak power generation. With flat panels you are correct in saying that the power curve peaks and drops off in the afternoon, but with a-Si we begin generation at first light, plateau, and continue to generate until last light. There is no sharp spike in the power curve in this device. This effectively allows you to generate for longer periods throughout the day.

                  Hate to tell you this but you are posting tripe -
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                  • sdold
                    Moderator
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 1443

                    #10
                    Originally posted by solaroad
                    What does everyone think about an all-in-one portable solar generator with integrated storage?
                    How much energy in watt hours does it produce per day?

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                    • SunEagle
                      Super Moderator
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 15151

                      #11
                      Originally posted by russ
                      Hate to tell you this but you are posting tripe -
                      Actually it could be considered a solar energy collector. Although I would say the total kw rating must be pretty small since only a portion of the cells will be able to collect the sun anytime during the day.

                      But all the cells should collect some amount of energy from sun up to sun down (except for when that handle shades the top panels).

                      Maybe even enough to charge that internal storage device.

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                      • J.P.M.
                        Solar Fanatic
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 14995

                        #12
                        Looks to be "designed" by someone who is not well versed in solar energy fundamentals.

                        BTW: For starters, about half the cells will be shaded at any one time. probably about half the remaining will be at an inefficient incidence angle. I'd start by removing the cells from one side of the structure and getting rid of the curved surface. Then, make the tilt angle adjustable.

                        Next, I go back to the drawing boards and get an empty sheet, and start from there, but not until I got a grasp on the fundamentals.

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                        • russ
                          Solar Fanatic
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 10360

                          #13
                          Originally posted by J.P.M.
                          Looks to be "designed" by someone who is not well versed in solar energy fundamentals.

                          BTW: For starters, about half the cells will be shaded at any one time. probably about half the remaining will be at an inefficient incidence angle. I'd start by removing the cells from one side of the structure and getting rid of the curved surface. Then, make the tilt angle adjustable.

                          Next, I go back to the drawing boards and get an empty sheet, and start from there, but not until I got a grasp on the fundamentals.
                          Or go for crowd funding and rake in big bucks from fools.
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                          • SunEagle
                            Super Moderator
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 15151

                            #14
                            I still would like to know what is the total (and usable) panel wattage along with the kWh (or volt & Ah) rating of the storage device.

                            While it may be portable it looks heavy to carry it around just by that handle.

                            I just checked out the website and it has ZERO data on wattage, voltage, Ah.

                            But it did have some funny pictures of these tubes mounted on roadway barriers and office cubicles.
                            Last edited by SunEagle; 05-13-2015, 03:53 PM. Reason: added last 2 sentences

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                            • solaroad
                              Junior Member
                              • May 2015
                              • 5

                              #15
                              Originally posted by sdold
                              How much energy in watt hours does it produce per day?

                              Originally posted by SunEagle
                              Actually it could be considered a solar energy collector. Although I would say the total kw rating must be pretty small since only a portion of the cells will be able to collect the sun anytime during the day.

                              But all the cells should collect some amount of energy from sun up to sun down (except for when that handle shades the top panels).

                              Maybe even enough to charge that internal storage device.

                              On the generation side it should produce 100 W/h due to a proprietery charge pump, and dependent on your geographic location. On the storage side, it has the ability to hold up to 5 kWh in battery storage.


                              Originally posted by J.P.M.
                              Looks to be "designed" by someone who is not well versed in solar energy fundamentals.

                              BTW: For starters, about half the cells will be shaded at any one time. probably about half the remaining will be at an inefficient incidence angle. I'd start by removing the cells from one side of the structure and getting rid of the curved surface. Then, make the tilt angle adjustable.

                              Next, I go back to the drawing boards and get an empty sheet, and start from there, but not until I got a grasp on the fundamentals.
                              The inventor has been involved in the solar industry for over 40 years.

                              "The cells are a-Si which is excellent at absorbing indirect light. Unlike Mono and poly crystalline flat panels which have to be at the correct angle of incidence towards the sun to allow for peak power generation. With a-Si we begin generation at first light, plateau, and continue to generate until last light. This effectively allows you to generate for longer periods throughout the day."

                              If you remove the cells from one side of the structure you effectively eliminate half of your charging surface. The sun follows an arc throughout the day, so why not allow for maximum generation potential without having to constantly adjust the device to follow the sun.

                              Originally posted by SunEagle
                              I still would like to know what is the total (and usable) panel wattage along with the kWh (or volt & Ah) rating of the storage device.

                              While it may be portable it looks heavy to carry it around just by that handle.

                              I just checked out the website and it has ZERO data on wattage, voltage, Ah.

                              But it did have some funny pictures of these tubes mounted on roadway barriers and office cubicles.
                              The total panel wattage is 100 W/h peak with a proprietary charge pump. We can store up to 5 kWh in one device. A 5 kWh model will weigh about 100 pounds, one with less storage capicity would weigh less. The funny tubes are energy generation and storage devices that can all work in conjunction with each other. They also all use pre-existing infrastructures for installation, therefore no additional land is needed to use solar power.
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