Economics of setting up a MW scale solar power plant in India
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The government (Indian or American) doesn't have the funds to support throwing money at solar for no real gain.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Comment
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The only people who will make money on carbon credits is the Governement and Brokers like Al Bore who invented the SCAM. Both make money on every trade made called the spread (Buy - Sell price difference) Like any commodity. Difference is something like Gold, Silve, Rice, and wheat you can hold in you hand and has real value to everyone and will never be worthless. Carbon credits are just a bunch of Air that you exhale and cost nothing to breath you SUCKER.MSEE, PEComment
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REC or wRECk........?
The only people who will make money on carbon credits is the Governement and Brokers like Al Bore who invented the SCAM. Both make money on every trade made called the spread (Buy - Sell price difference) Like any commodity. Difference is something like Gold, Silve, Rice, and wheat you can hold in you hand and has real value to everyone and will never be worthless. Carbon credits are just a bunch of Air that you exhale and cost nothing to breath you SUCKER.Comment
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Companies like tesla made big money on CARB zero emission vehicle credits in Q1 and Made millionaires out of stockholders in Q2. They would have had a quarterly loss in Q1 without. Who pays for that? Those repressed by government regulations and those who shorted against the whole idea that it was plausible. Everything is a business model. It's just what amount of it you do want to participate in.PowerOne 3.6 x 2, 32 SolarWorld 255W monoComment
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Dear CPS, I have gone through your posts and data posted since last 4 months.
1. I am too interested in setting up a plant of 1 MW in Haryana or Punjab.
2. As far as economics presented by you seems ok, but the trend of REC in exchange has seen a downfall. No doubt there is a floor price of 9300 but the market is flooded with excessive REC and nobody to buy them.
3. There is no set mechanism for DISCOM to buy electricity form private players unless they have a MOU signed before hand at the rates mutually agreed upon. This kind of MOU is being implemented atleast in Haryana & Punjab, but after floating the tenders for it and asking for the lowest rates!
4. The prices for buyback by Punjab in recently held tendering has been a Rs.7.50 as the lowest and Rs. 8.59 as the highest, but as i said it all went through tendering. Secondly I am not sure whether the producer can avail REC after it as this seems to be a preferential tariff and producers being paid preferential tariffs can not avail the REC benefit.
5. Although you have not included carbon credits in the revenues, I wonder how helpful they can be.
I would be glad if you can share my views and come out with some optimistic figures so that the feasibility of the project can be seen.
Regards
DeepDear CPS,
. If you browse through the online data for purchase of power it varies between Rs2.00 to Rs.3.40 for various regions of India, except Punjab, which is in troubled waters and buying power at Rs.8/50 per unit. So these figures are also frustrating for the solar plant to be viable!
Regards
Deep
Instead of selling power to the Discoms for Rs. 2 - Rs. 3 per unit it is better to find a private party and do a PPA with them for Rs. 4 - Rs. 5 per unit but without some revenue from the REC it will not be a viable project.
When you sell power to the state government through the tendering process you will not earn RECs. The tariff level only makes sense if you can utilize the accelerated depreciation. That is why you'll primarily see big companies bidding since they can use the AD.
The IEX is offering the Rs. 20 incentive since PXIL did something similar in the past and overtook the IEX in traded volumes. They just want to be able to say that they are the largest exchange for RECs.Comment
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MW Solar Power Plant in INDIA
I totally agree to what CPS says regarding MW solar power plant in INDIA.Your experience & way of approach is very good, but I would like to share my experience.I feel that it would be good if you sell SOLAR Products like: SOLAR UPS, MODULES,INVERTERS, BATTERIES, SOLAR LIGHTS, SOLAR LANTERNS, SOLAR STREET LIGHT.
This would give you a push in line of business, it will be a marketing for your company and on the long run it would like a back up for you.
Best Regards
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Hi CPS,
I am also thinking about setting up a 1MW solar plant in Andhra Pradesh. Based on my research so far, I have come to similar conclusions as you did. One major difference is break even point if RECs complete expire after June 2017.
You mentioned that majority of investment will be recovered by June 2017. Here are rough numbers I came up with. Assuming total investment is 8Cr and you take a loan of 5Cr, EMI would be around 10L per month.
Total Investment : 8 Cr
Loan : 5 Cr
EMI : 10 Lakhs per month = 1.2 Cr per year (based on 14% interest rate)
Maintenance costs: 1L per month = 12 L per year.
Total per year costs = 1.3 Cr
Fixed panel installation can generate around 15L units per year
Assuming REC floor price 9.3 and power price at 5. we can get Rs.14.3 per unit
So total income per year = 2.1 Cr
Profits per year = 0.8 Cr
Assuming 3 years for REC total profits = 2.4 Cr.
After June, 2017, If power price is 6 rupees per unit and REC drops to zero,
Annual income: 15L X 6 = 90 Lakhs
Annual expenses: 1.3 Cr.
Deficit = 40L
I don't see how this whole project is feasible based on these numbers. Are there special interest rates for solar? Or am I missing something here? Thanks for your help.
--msr
--adding to above..
annual expenses after 6 years (loan period) will be only 12L.the deficit 40 L for 3 years will be covered in 2 years after 6 years ..we can expect actual returns after 10 years...
we are planning to set up 1 MW plant but seeing all discussions..i am lil scared..Anything can happen anytime in india especially when govt is involved.Comment
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Good discussion
My dad and his few business associates are planning to set a 5MW plant in Maharasthra.
Can some one throw some light on the state policy for Maharashtra.Comment
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Could you explain in detail how you assumed an output of 1.5-1.7 Mil. Units per year from the 1MW plant ?Comment
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