Help with pool heating design

[Naptown]

Russ and Naptown are pointing you in the right direction but I feel I sould mention the pool chemicals. I've seen lots of home made pool heaters that worked great at first then failed due to the chlorine and other chemicals in the water.
There was even a system on the market that used EPDM rubber tubing. Great idea right, no so much. After a year or two the rubber would degrade inside and start to send little strings into the pool. As soon as you touched them the strings would smear all over the place. Not to long after the strings start showing up the tubing would fail and leak every where.
also what ever you decide to do make sure the "heater" is after the filter (so it won't get clogged) and before any chemical feeders you have.

Funny Aquatherm uses an EPDM rubber tubing to connect their collectors. I have looked at many old systems and there have been no issues with this.

[Larry L]

Russ and Naptown are pointing you in the right direction but I feel I sould mention the pool chemicals. I've seen lots of home made pool heaters that worked great at first then failed due to the chlorine and other chemicals in the water.
There was even a system on the market that used EPDM rubber tubing. Great idea right, no so much. After a year or two the rubber would degrade inside and start to send little strings into the pool. As soon as you touched them the strings would smear all over the place. Not to long after the strings start showing up the tubing would fail and leak every where.
also what ever you decide to do make sure the "heater" is after the filter (so it won't get clogged) and before any chemical feeders you have.

[russ]

Right

[IKROWNI]

There would be uneven flow through that meaning the first coil would receive more water than the last.
So imagine this
Notice how you plumbed the top of the collectors in your drawing.
Now do the same thing at the bottom except where the ONE pipe that returns to the pool will be at the opposite end from where the first panel on the top header is.

so is it like this that you mean?

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[Naptown]

are there any downsides to doing all of this i like the idea of the manifold but will my pool suffer as far as water quality from bypassing the 3 jets that stream into the pool or would all be fine?


heres a quick diagram i threw together would it be something like this?
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There would be uneven flow through that meaning the first coil would receive more water than the last.
So imagine this
Notice how you plumbed the top of the collectors in your drawing.
Now do the same thing at the bottom except where the ONE pipe that returns to the pool will be at the opposite end from where the first panel on the top header is.

[IKROWNI]

Your pool pump will be sufficient to do this.
However don't run the 1000' of pipe in a single run.
Divide it up into 5 or 6 shorter pieces and tie them together in a manifold to a much larger pipe that would run from the return to the pool through the collectors and back to the pool.
If you want to get even more elegant use a Heliotrope three way valve and controller which will give you thermostatic control.

The problem with the 1000 foot single run is about 1/2 way through the pipe will reach the most it can collect as the water has gotten too hot. You don't want hot water coming back to the pool. A few degrees warmer and a higher volume will be more effective in heating the pool.

are there any downsides to doing all of this i like the idea of the manifold but will my pool suffer as far as water quality from bypassing the 3 jets that stream into the pool or would all be fine?


heres a quick diagram i threw together would it be something like this?
solar pool heater diagram.png

[Naptown]

Your pool pump will be sufficient to do this.
However don't run the 1000' of pipe in a single run.
Divide it up into 5 or 6 shorter pieces and tie them together in a manifold to a much larger pipe that would run from the return to the pool through the collectors and back to the pool.
If you want to get even more elegant use a Heliotrope three way valve and controller which will give you thermostatic control.

The problem with the 1000 foot single run is about 1/2 way through the pipe will reach the most it can collect as the water has gotten too hot. You don't want hot water coming back to the pool. A few degrees warmer and a higher volume will be more effective in heating the pool.

[IKROWNI]

hello i was just browsing around at ideas for solar pool heaters and was thinking up my own design but wanted to run it by the pros or the more experienced to see if its possible to design it this way...

i have 1000' of irrigation hose with connectors for connecting them all together. the place i want to put the entire assembly is actually on the ground behind my pool area which is about 8' above the water level of the pool.

i do not have an extra pump to pump the water through and was wondering if i could just use the pool filter pump someway to create the design and potentially not have to have an extra pump running all day.

we run our pump roughly 6-8 hours per day and there are 3 nozzles where the water gets pumped back into the pool.

i was thinking that maybe it would be possible to just connect one of the nozzles that are pumping water into the pool to one en of the irrigation hose and just have the other side hanging into the pool somewhere.

heres a picture of my pool area so you can get a better idea
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the land behind the pool is at about a 45 degree angle facing south and i live in florida and there is no shade in that area at all

the pool pump is rated 1hp at least thats what it looks like on the faded out sticker

my plan was to wind the 1000' of hose into 4 discs laid on the ground behind the pool with one end hooked up to the nozzle and the other end laid in the pool would this work out well for me or should i look into spending more money on the project?