Solar Pool Heating with Irrigation Hose Help

[mmille24]

I'm looking to build a solar pool heating setup with black irrigation hose. Similar to the one in the below link:

http://www.whereisholden.com/2012/04/thermal-solar-pool-heater-summary.html

However, I don't want to plug the pump into an outlet. I want it to be 100% solar. What solar panel and pump would make sense for this sort of setup?

Thanks in advance.

[Naptown]

It would typically use the pool filter pump

[russ]

Here is another black plastic pipe version http://rimstar.org/renewnrg/solar_po...ter_diy_fp.htm

or http://www.mmattera.com/bin/Solar_Pool_Heater_Coils.jpg

The rimstar site has the calculations

[mmille24]

It would typically use the pool filter pump

I don't want to use the pool filter pump. I want to buy a separate pump that I can power through a solar panel.

Any ideas on what panel and pump I can use?

[mmille24]

I think I decided on the pump:

http://www.amazon.com/Rule-Submersible-Bilge-Pump-500/dp/B000O8B7VO/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1391552400&sr=8-9&keywords=submersible+water+pump+dc

The pump is 24watts. I'm going to ask a dumb question. Can I use a 30w panel or should it be higher? Anything in particular the panel should have?

[Wy_White_Wolf]

I think I decided on the pump:

http://www.amazon.com/Rule-Submersible-Bilge-Pump-500/dp/B000O8B7VO/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1391552400&sr=8-9&keywords=submersible+water+pump+dc

The pump is 24watts. I'm going to ask a dumb question. Can I use a 30w panel or should it be higher? Anything in particular the panel should have?

Depends on if that pump can be ran solar direct. Not all DC pumps can.

If possible find an older style solar panel that is designed with 28 to 32 cells instead of the standard 36 cells for 12V. The lower VMP and VOC will help with running solar direct. Instead of just watts you need to make sure the amp (IMP) rating is higher then the requirement for the pump.

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[mmille24]

Depends on if that pump can be ran solar direct. Not all DC pumps can.

If possible find an older style solar panel that is designed with 28 to 32 cells instead of the standard 36 cells for 12V. The lower VMP and VOC will help with running solar direct. Instead of just watts you need to make sure the amp (IMP) rating is higher then the requirement for the pump.

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These are the stats on the pump:
Fuse Size: 2.5 amps Amp Draw @ 13.6 Volts: 1.9 Amp Draw @ 13.6 Volts: 2.5

There's also one with less power and the following (but I prefer the one above):
Fuse Size: 2.5 amps Amp Draw @ 12 Volts: 2.1 Amp Draw @ 13.6 Volts: 2.5

Can I make this work? Can you recommend an exact panel?

[Naptown]

These are the stats on the pump:
Fuse Size: 2.5 amps Amp Draw @ 13.6 Volts: 1.9 Amp Draw @ 13.6 Volts: 2.5

There's also one with less power and the following (but I prefer the one above):
Fuse Size: 2.5 amps Amp Draw @ 12 Volts: 2.1 Amp Draw @ 13.6 Volts: 2.5

Can I make this work? Can you recommend an exact panel?

That pump will only lift about 5 feet with any kind of flow. Check the pump curves against your static and vertical head before doing anything

[mmille24]

That pump will only lift about 5 feet with any kind of flow. Check the pump curves against your static and vertical head before doing anything

The Rule 500 should have 6.7 Feet of lift. I don't need much lift at all. I'll be putting the setup on a hill near the pool. I won't be putting it on a roof or anything.

[mmille24]

So can anyone let me know what panel exactly would work with these pumps?

[Naptown]

can't answer that as the pump is not designed to run from solar only
Look into solar fountain pumps you may have a better shot of finding something.

[mmille24]

can't answer that as the pump is not designed to run from solar only
Look into solar fountain pumps you may have a better shot of finding something.

I see a lot of reviews that state the smaller one is used for solar:

http://www.amazon.com/Rule-24-Marine-360-GPH-12-Volt/dp/B000O8D8QG/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1391799461&sr=8-4&keywords=rule+pump

Can you recommend a solar fountain pump then?

[Naptown]

I see a lot of reviews that state the smaller one is used for solar:

http://www.amazon.com/Rule-24-Marine-360-GPH-12-Volt/dp/B000O8D8QG/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1391799461&sr=8-4&keywords=rule+pump

Can you recommend a solar fountain pump then?

google is your friend

[mmille24]

google is your friend

Cool. Thanks. Good to know this forum is very useless in answering straightforward questions.

[Naptown]

Cool. Thanks. Good to know this forum is very useless in answering straightforward questions.

So you want me or us to find everything for you. Sorry you get what you pay for and last time I checked no one here gets paid to do everything for you.
I sent you in the correct direction what more do you want me to do. Come and install it for you?