Hello, 1st post guidance needed

[Sunking]

The whiny types come and go - no big thing.

It is like Lost Wages (aka Las Vegas) where you go to get robbed at the tables, over charged for everything, lied to, screwed, blued, and tattooed, come home and tell everyone what a great time you had and cannot wait to go back. It is pure marketing genius.

So I do not care if I hurt someones feelings once in a while. Truth hurts sometimes and needs to be blunt to get someones attention. Once they understand what you are trying to do usually say thank you. That is how good effective management works. You tear them down, then build them back up with confidence.

[russ]

You are breaking my heart dude. Get over it, I do not care what you think. I just saved this guy a ton of cash. All you wanted to do is be nice and spend his cash for him like a nice polite salesman would do. Engineers find solutions, not waste clients cash.

The whiny types come and go - no big thing.

[Sunking]

Just ignore Sunking. There is no place for that kind of talk on this forum. Sunking is knowledgeable and could help you if he wanted. But he would rather talk ****. I for one am getting pretty darn tired of it.

You are breaking my heart dude. Get over it, I do not care what you think. I just saved this guy a ton of cash. All you wanted to do is be nice and spend his cash for him like a nice polite salesman would do. Engineers find solutions, not waste clients cash.

[Sunking]

Wow.

Battery I found is here.

http://www.tayna.co.uk/95406-Varta-Hobby-Leisure-Battery-A23-P3634.html

Says its leisure ref is 95406.

That will work, not a battery I would choose, but I do not know what is really available in your area. If you live in the UK take a look at Rolls Marine battery line up like a 12FS80 or an AGM like S1295AGM. Both are a little larger but extremely high quality with a great 2/7 warranty.

[Sunking]

Yes Im a little shocked at the way I was addressed, but I do appreciate the advice more so considering high cost involved and possibility of getting it wrong

I bet it got your attention and made you rethink what you are doing huh? That is what it is suppose to do. Makes you stop and think about it, ask more questions before throwing good money away at a bad idea.

All I can say is thanks to those who have given me advice and save me some badly invested £'s

You are welcome.

[Griffter]

Wow.

Battery I found is here.

http://www.tayna.co.uk/95406-Varta-Hobby-Leisure-Battery-A23-P3634.html

Says its leisure ref is 95406

In response to the other posts & comments.
Yes Im a little shocked at the way I was addressed, but I do appreciate the advice more so considering high cost involved and possibility of getting it wrong
I did search, but like with most forums unless you know what you are looking for its not always that easy to find things and sometimes it is quicker to post. I didn't see any stickies in the forum which many have adopted as quick reference areas for repeated questions.

Perhaps half the problem is that there is a large amount of advertising for green solutions but little easy access info.

All I can say is thanks to those who have given me advice and save me some badly invested £'s

[Sunking]

Ok so I can get something like a varta 12v50Ahr for about £65. Don't know if that's a good price but its smaller in size than I thought. Any other recommends?

Got a model number. It is not a bad price but I suspect it is Starting Battery

Assuming I went with this size it would last me the planned week.
If I went for 2 weeks what's the best options for keeping it charged whilst away?
Car / Solar / Mains

Well assuming you are not near Mains that is out. A set of jumper cables, connect to vehicle battery, start vehicle and let it run for 30 minutes to an hour.

Also I'm guessing this will need to live in a battery box, are these ok inside tent or should it be kept outside?

Only to keep it from getting wet.

[SunEagle]

Yes, I am an engineer, and I think like an engineer. Not sure what difference that makes in this conversation.

Naptown, I appreciate you. You have always been very helpful and very professional with me. Sunking can be very helpful also. He is very knowledgeable, especially about battery systems.

I do get what you are saying about people that do not do their homework before asking the questions. That can be annoying (on any forum). But maybe we should ask them if they have tried doing a search. I don't think we should belittle them. Sometimes it is hard to know the right questions to ask, or the right search to do.

The sad part is that a lot of new people come into the forum with the attitude that solar is cheap and "green". Neither is true but it sometimes takes being a little blunt to get their attention. They just don't want to believe or listen.

I was also put off by Sunking and russ at first but then realized that after a while, the "free and acurate" information that they provided was ignored by a lot of people. That would make anyone a little teed off and result in blunt and honest retorts.

I don't like rudness but I also don't want people to waste their hard earned money on stuff they do not need to buy. So I too have a breaking point when it comes to people not even trying to use their brains or listen to good advice so I may get a little short with them. If they are turned off by my "rudeness" then I can either appologize or shrug my shoulders and hope they learn something without breaking their bank account.

Hang around a while and you too may get irratated to the point of telling someone off.

[thastinger]

Probably a good point to consider is that it is difficult to transmit the true intention of a message in typed words. As with all communications though, the responsibility for effective communications lies with the transmitter, not the receiver.

[t5800512]

Yes, I am an engineer, and I think like an engineer. Not sure what difference that makes in this conversation.

Naptown, I appreciate you. You have always been very helpful and very professional with me. Sunking can be very helpful also. He is very knowledgeable, especially about battery systems.

I do get what you are saying about people that do not do their homework before asking the questions. That can be annoying (on any forum). But maybe we should ask them if they have tried doing a search. I don't think we should belittle them. Sometimes it is hard to know the right questions to ask, or the right search to do.

[Naptown]

Sometimes that's the price of free accurate no bs advice.
I do sales. Completely different mentality than that of an engineer.
Your profile says that you are also an engineer.

[t5800512]

Really, are you saying that everyone on this forum will eventually become rude? I will not. I was raised better than that. If it got under my skin like that, I would drop out for a while.

Besides, I don't think you believe that yourself. I have seen hundreds of your posts, including the ones where you have helped me, and I have never seen you be rude.

I have only seen one person on this forum being rude; and it happens regularly. I believe he has chased off as many people as he has helped. If he has become that jaded, maybe he should take a break for a while.

[Naptown]

Defend him if you want. But I'm going to bristle up ever time I see anyone being rude. There is no need for it. Sunking might be right, but he does not have to be rude.

I'm happy and proud to be a member of this forum. But I have to hang my head when someone jumps on a newbee for trying to learn, even if we perceive it as a stupid question. There is just no place on this or any forum for being rude to the other members.

Wait
Your patience will wear thin eventually

[t5800512]

Defend him if you want. But I'm going to bristle up ever time I see anyone being rude. There is no need for it. Sunking might be right, but he does not have to be rude.

I'm happy and proud to be a member of this forum. But I have to hang my head when someone jumps on a newbee for trying to learn, even if we perceive it as a stupid question. There is just no place on this or any forum for being rude to the other members.

You can kick me off if you want, but I'm going to continue to call out anyone that is rude to others. Seriously, there is no need for it, and it is flat out unacceptable!

[Naptown]

Just ignore Sunking. There is no place for that kind of talk on this forum. Sunking is knowledgeable and could help you if he wanted. But he would rather talk ****. I for one am getting pretty darn tired of it.

Actually he gave very good advice.
A bit blunt but spot on.
What you fail to realize is that he abhors wasting anyone's money.
Although the response was similar to a 2x4 to the head sometimes that is what it takes.
Wait till you have been here long enough to read and respond to the same basic question for the 100000000000000th time.
All of these questions have been answered in the forum before. Just a matter of a little looking and use of the search function.