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  • jstepy
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    Originally posted by Mike90250
    What are your solar harvest hours, and what are your peak use hours. Can you hold off on appliance usage in the evening till 9pm ?
    Harvest Hours for me are approx: 8 to 4.

    SCE Peak times are 12 pm to 6 pm and we can keep usage to a minimum during those hours. Pool is scheduled to run at night... during the summer months the only hiccup might be the kids turning the pool on in the afternoon but it is a very efficient variable speed pump.

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  • Mike90250
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    What are your solar harvest hours, and what are your peak use hours. Can you hold off on appliance usage in the evening till 9pm ?

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  • jstepy
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    Newbie Time of Use Question...

    Just got our system installed in Southern CA and loving it. Having the dilemma of switching to Time of Use or sticking with the basic Tier Structure.

    Trying to calculate the difference in credits I'd receive and while the Domestic Tier Rate is straight forward and easy to calculate I am having a hard time figuring out the corresponding credit I would receive under the TOU rate. I first thought it was calculated daily for a dollar amount but I guess I was a little too anxious and optimistic. Found out it is done at month's end and is some huge calculation. Does anyone have a simple way of figuring this out?

    Here are my projected usages for June and it's pretty easy to see with the Tier Plan I'd get approx. $23 credit at the end of the month (-177 x $0.13) I gotta think going to TOU would be beneficial right?

    USAGE: 413 (On Peak: 11 Off Peak: 402)
    Solar: -590 (On Peak: -393 Off Peak: -197)
    NET: -177

    Throw in the two tier levels for TOU and I am completely lost. My Tier 1 allowance is 367 and the current summer rates for Tier 1: Off .12 On .31 and Tier 2: Off .27 On .47

    I know the solar providers have programs to determine this but I am actually trying to understand the "how" this is derived.

    Thank you for your time and help.

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  • russ
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    Originally posted by SoCalsolar
    Keep us up to date on your search. I'm curious to know how much "10-$20 a month" costs these days.
    Well stated - sounds like there is a snake oil salesman out there.

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  • SoCalsolar
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    SC 10-$20 a month hold on to your wallet

    Keep us up to date on your search. I'm curious to know how much "10-$20 a month" costs these days.

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  • Stomp
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    Originally posted by kingocat
    Ian,

    I was told by Solarcity that everything would be free in exchange for them to use my roof to generate electricity so they can sell it to the electric company. There would be a 20 year lease and I would pay about $10-20 bucks for the term of the lease. I don't have the contracts but I'm in the process of having a solar consultant come by to look at my home.
    Hi Kingocat,

    Here is the original thread I started when I was considering solar - gives some background.

    If you are a homeowner who is about to put a solar panel system on your home or you are a newbie to the solar market, get started here! A non-technical forum to help you understand the in's and out's of solar.


    I ultimately went with a Sunpower system sold by Revco Solar in Laguna Hills (the first bid I reference above). The system cost about $28k +/- after tax credits and SCE rebates. We paid for it vs. leasing since we consider this a long-term home and I didn't want to deal with leasing (and any issues that *might* arise from that). Furthermore, I looked at it as a long-term bond that pays approx. $2,500 - $3,000/year (roughly my annual electric bill before solar because we always ended up in tier 5), with an escalating return as rates increase.

    TOU has ended up making a difference for us, because the credits on straight net metering are minimal given the low wholesale rates SCE pays out.

    Honestly I can't speak too intelligently on lease vs. buy because I went in focused on buying. Good luck and feel free to ping me with any questions.

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  • kingocat
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    Originally posted by Ian S
    Even though you live in California where rates have tended to increase over the years, avoid a lease where they build in an annual escalator. Also, make sure you really save a significant amount of money (lease payment + new electric bill) vs old electric bill. By significant, I'd say somewhere around $100/mo or more. Otherwise, when you go to sell your home you may have a lot of handwaving to do to convince your buyer to take over the payments. In any event, keep lots of detailed records of the savings so you can prove to a buyer what a great deal it is.

    Get a copy of the lease before you sign and go over it in detail so you know exactly what you're getting into. It is a 20 year commitment after all and adds to the complexity of selling your home. You might also look at other companies' leases too - I got one here in Arizona with Sunpower although it's prepaid.

    There's been plenty of discussion of leasing pros and cons in this forum so search the archives.
    Ian,

    I was told by Solarcity that everything would be free in exchange for them to use my roof to generate electricity so they can sell it to the electric company. There would be a 20 year lease and I would pay about $10-20 bucks for the term of the lease. I don't have the contracts but I'm in the process of having a solar consultant come by to look at my home.

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  • kingocat
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    Originally posted by russ
    Monthly average kWh consumption?
    We use about 800 -1000 KWH per month.


    thanks

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  • Ian S
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    Originally posted by kingocat
    I wonder how much he paid for his system. Do you have a solar panel system?

    I'm thinking about leasing one from solarcity. Any advice?
    Even though you live in California where rates have tended to increase over the years, avoid a lease where they build in an annual escalator. Also, make sure you really save a significant amount of money (lease payment + new electric bill) vs old electric bill. By significant, I'd say somewhere around $100/mo or more. Otherwise, when you go to sell your home you may have a lot of handwaving to do to convince your buyer to take over the payments. In any event, keep lots of detailed records of the savings so you can prove to a buyer what a great deal it is.

    Get a copy of the lease before you sign and go over it in detail so you know exactly what you're getting into. It is a 20 year commitment after all and adds to the complexity of selling your home. You might also look at other companies' leases too - I got one here in Arizona with Sunpower although it's prepaid.

    There's been plenty of discussion of leasing pros and cons in this forum so search the archives.

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  • Ian S
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    Originally posted by russ
    190$ for the year - this is not a get rich quick scheme
    He didn't even get that did he? As I understood his post, he lost that:
    My only disappointment was that I thought I'd get some benefit, even negligible, for the credit I had generated. However, since I was still a net "user" of electricity (my off peak usage outweighed my on-peak generation) I get exactly $0.00.
    Here in AZ, they keep track of actual kWh credited and pay us at year's end at a low $0.06/kWh rate. Better than nothing and discourages responses like that of the poster who plans to waste more electricity in the summer so no one winds up winning.

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  • russ
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    Originally posted by kingocat
    HI,

    I"m in Orange county, CA. by disneyland/knotts berry farm.
    Monthly average kWh consumption?

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  • kingocat
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    Originally posted by russ
    Where are you located? Makes a big difference.
    HI,

    I"m in Orange county, CA. by disneyland/knotts berry farm.

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  • russ
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    Where are you located? Makes a big difference.

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  • kingocat
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    Originally posted by russ
    190$ for the year - this is not a get rich quick scheme
    I wonder how much he paid for his system. Do you have a solar panel system?

    I'm thinking about leasing one from solarcity. Any advice?

    Thanks

    New here.

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  • russ
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    Originally posted by kingocat
    Hey Stomp, How much did it cost you to install the solar panel? Which company did you chose? Are you getting a couple hundred dollar credit every month from the electric company?


    Thanks
    190$ for the year - this is not a get rich quick scheme

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