NJ diy setup questions...is there a under the radar limit

[littleharbor2]

If you decide to do this keep in mind, if you, at any time generate more power than you are consuming there's a good chance a big red flag will pop up due to feedback to the POCO

[SunEagle]

Thx for the clarification. Took them a good while to push that into legality as well over there...power companies and electrical standard department were fighting it like crazy. But u might be right that the infrastructure in the us is not cutting it.
will discard the idea. Thx to all of you

Sorry for the confusion. Some people are still able to perform a solar DIY installation which should save money. As long as their AHJ says it is ok and it meets all local safety codes.

[darkyputz]

Thx for the clarification. Took them a good while to push that into legality as well over there...power companies and electrical standard department were fighting it like crazy. But u might be right that the infrastructure in the us is not cutting it.
will discard the idea. Thx to all of you

[SunEagle]

There's the key word - "typically." Not always.

If you want to do it right, put in a dedicated line. That way it works always, not just usually.

Agree. The OP needs a dedicated line to the breaker panel and not a shared line or breaker to input the power from solar.

Any other way is illegal in the US

[jflorey2]

Thats where the trip curve comes into play. The wire is has typically no problem

There's the key word - "typically." Not always.

If you want to do it right, put in a dedicated line. That way it works always, not just usually.

[scrambler]

Remember that Europe is running 220V.
So not only is the input Amperage of such a device twice as high in the US that in Europe. But In addition, European circuit which are on average10 to 32 Amp can take twice as much power that a US 120V circuit (usually 15 to 30 Amp). And finally, they tend to have less outlets per circuit than in the US.

All that combined may influence why such input device may be acceptable in Europe but could be a problem on US Home circuit.

[Will792]

Pooh...was not quite sure what went wrong...
either way, i got a cgotle quotes and an average of 50k for solar at 11 cents/kwh will never repay itself. So thats why i initially started this to find out what is possible, cause i want solar but not for a second mortgage

I am sure that NJ residential rates are much more than 11 cents per kWh. Probably you are looking at generation rate but netmetering includes credit for generation and distribution charges. My utility rate in CT is more than 30 cents per KWh. My system unexpectedly paid for itself in 3 years since rates went up so much.

[SunEagle]

Pooh...was not quite sure what went wrong...
either way, i got a cgotle quotes and an average of 50k for solar at 11 cents/kwh will never repay itself. So thats why i initially started this to find out what is possible, cause i want solar but not for a second mortgage

You and I are in the same boat. At less then $0.10/kWh and installation cost of $2/watt would take over 12 years to pay off. So installing a solar array for me is not financially smart.

[darkyputz]

Pooh...was not quite sure what went wrong...
either way, i got a cgotle quotes and an average of 50k for solar at 11 cents/kwh will never repay itself. So thats why i initially started this to find out what is possible, cause i want solar but not for a second mortgage

[SunEagle]

Holla...hold your horses...
not sure where this went sideways...
Appologies to what ever...i was just hoping that such thing is available here...
Learned it is not. Subject cna be closed or deleted.
Never thought that this is getting this direction or even insults anyone..
No BS anywhere

Ok. Apologies not necessary. I just wanted to convey my thoughts to you and some of the non members that come into the forum that using a plug in inverter to a non dedicated outlet is illegal in the US and dangerous.

[darkyputz]

Holla...hold your horses...
not sure where this went sideways...
Appologies to what ever...i was just hoping that such thing is available here...
Learned it is not. Subject cna be closed or deleted.
Never thought that this is getting this direction or even insults anyone..
No BS anywhere

[Mike 134]

It doesn't really matter where in Europe they allow this type of installation. The OP stated he is doing a DIY in NJ or New Jersey which as far as I know is still the US

I'm thinking he's BSing us, which is why I asked for more specifics.

[SunEagle]

What would be helpful is to know what countries in Europe allow it. Even just the one country you are familiar with so curious minds can research it.

It doesn't really matter where in Europe they allow this type of installation. The OP stated he is doing a DIY in NJ or New Jersey which as far as I know is still the US

[Mike 134]

Thats where the trip curve comes into play. The wire is has typically no problem with the extra 6 amps when put in according to breaker in box. And the 6 amps plus the the rest load happens exactly in how many scenarios?
There are tons of how it works in the net. I was not trying to start a base discussion since its already proven safe and law in europe...i was just wondering if i missed that over here.
cause if we want the get energy moved iver to renewables, we cant wait for the government or comoanies to do it...this can only work as a grassroot movement.
otherwise we will not make it in time, or at all with all the lobby groups working on pro carbon still

What would be helpful is to know what countries in Europe allow it. Even just the one country you are familiar with so curious minds can research it.

[SunEagle]

Thats where the trip curve comes into play. The wire is has typically no problem with the extra 6 amps when put in according to breaker in box. And the 6 amps plus the the rest load happens exactly in how many scenarios?
There are tons of how it works in the net. I was not trying to start a base discussion since its already proven safe and law in europe...i was just wondering if i missed that over here.
cause if we want the get energy moved iver to renewables, we cant wait for the government or comoanies to do it...this can only work as a grassroot movement.
otherwise we will not make it in time, or at all with all the lobby groups working on pro carbon still

I understand why you want to install solar but please understand that what you are doing can hurt the home wiring and is illegal in the US. If you continue to post that it is ok to do this then I will have to kick you out of this forum.