Make the switch to solar?

[azdave]

he has been banned

Great! I hope the mods remove his email address from both of the posts he has made.

[J.P.M.]

@chback2023

do you currently have solar now? I am a solar consultant and can get multiple quotes at once to make sure you get the best offer. You can contact me here patrick @ elite nrgtx . Com

This is a solar peddler/bottom feeder out of McKinney TX.

spam !!!!!

he has been banned

[Chback2023]

Shemp, I'm contemplating a used Leaf. I'm also a SDGE customer and the Leaf could be useful to offset the TOU NEM 2.0 rates. What insights do you have gained since March?

Chris

[Shemp]

Just pulled the trigger and signed a contract. 18.2 kW coming soon..... Also bought a ntm Nissan Leaf. Thanks for the help everyone

[Shemp]

They're the company I want to use as well. I can't figure out the discrepency in price between the 2 comparable string inverter prices. One is more than double the other!

[Mike 134]

I have 2 firm quotes but am changing them to increase the size due to purchasing an EV soon.


He never mentioned REC's This was my first bid and he hasn't returned an email asking for specifics. Assuming the same REC of about 16, net cost = $8.5k



I don't know how much I'm saving due to a non apples to apples approach but I appreciate company 2 quoting me a string inverter system. Everyone else pushed micro's or optimisers and from what I've read, are completely unnecessary in my situation. I will have no shade, ever!

I'm wondering why the REC's from company 1 to 2 is different by $1.3k?? The way I understand this is that a vender, in this case Carbon Solutions, gets the RECs as they are generated. They charge a 5% of the estimated SREC value (collateral fee) to the total cost and then an additional 15% taken from the check they send you in 12 months. 10% ($1942) collateral fee is refunded after the 15th year.

I'm waiting for quotes from all 3 on a string inverter system of approx 20kW DC.

Thanks for the update. Interesting that company 3 "forgot" to add in the RECs to your bottom-line cost.

[Shemp]

I forgot to add I ran PVwatts and it calculated 12.6 kW - 35 Panels. Doesn't go into specifics I guess

[Shemp]

I have 2 firm quotes but am changing them to increase the size due to purchasing an EV soon.

Company 1 (Pearl Certified, local)

OPTIMIZER OPTION
12.8kW System (16,537kWh)
"32" Qcells Q.PEAK DUO BLK ML-G10 400
"32" SolarEdge Technologies Inc. S440
SolarEdge Technologies Inc. SE10000H-US
Total Cost $45,626
Fed tac credit 30% $13.7k
REC $15.2k
Net total $16.7

STRING INVERTER
13.44kW System (16.,944KwH)
"28" Q cell 480W
"2" GoodWe GW6000A-MS (240V)
Total cost $40.5k
Fed tax credit $12.1k
REC $15.6k
Net total $12.7k


Company 2

Same size system and same panels as optimizer above. String inverter.
Iron Ridge Shingle roof Solar Panel Mounting System
Fronius Primo 10kW Grid tie inverter ($5.4k)
Total cost $31398
Fed tax credit $9.4k
SREC est $19.4k
SREC fees $2.9k(15% on top of 5% collateral already added in total cost for SREC)
Net SREC $16.5k
Total Incentives $25.9k
Net Total $5.5k

Company 3

11.5kW system
"34" JA Solar JAM60510-340/MR
"34" Enphase IQ8-60-2-US
He didn't break down the costs
Total cost $35k
Fed tax credit $10.5
Net cost $24.5K
He never mentioned REC's This was my first bid and he hasn't returned an email asking for specifics. Assuming the same REC of about 16, net cost = $8.5k



I don't know how much I'm saving due to a non apples to apples approach but I appreciate company 2 quoting me a string inverter system. Everyone else pushed micro's or optimisers and from what I've read, are completely unnecessary in my situation. I will have no shade, ever!

I'm wondering why the REC's from company 1 to 2 is different by $1.3k?? The way I understand this is that a vender, in this case Carbon Solutions, gets the RECs as they are generated. They charge a 5% of the estimated SREC value (collateral fee) to the total cost and then an additional 15% taken from the check they send you in 12 months. 10% ($1942) collateral fee is refunded after the 15th year.

I'm waiting for quotes from all 3 on a string inverter system of approx 20kW DC.

[Mike 134]

I read the dummies book and have 2 additional consultations scheduled for today. We are also looking for an EV to offset our $360/month car gas bill. I'll post some quotes when I get them.
Thanks again

btw, I'm not sure how to ask about the REC's? What specifically will they offer?

If you haven't studied this I'd highly recommend you do
Solar Info – Illinois Shines

Have you run the PVwatts program yet? Ask your 2 vendors what numbers they come up with?

Here's an example for my place I'll generate 9000KWH a year multipled by 14 years to account for losses over 15 years and I'll generate 126 RECs. times $82.26 equals $10364.76. That's money that should go in your pocket. Plus the 30% federal credit.

I'll be curious what you post later today about how they handle the presentation.

Keep in mind they most likely work for one of two companies:

Duey, Cheatem, & Howe or
Flim, Flam, & Fleecem.

Old timers will know what show those names came from.

[Shemp]

I read the dummies book and have 2 additional consultations scheduled for today. We are also looking for an EV to offset our $360/month car gas bill. I'll post some quotes when I get them.
Thanks again

btw, I'm not sure how to ask about the REC's? What specifically will they offer?

[OCJ]

I posted the chart above on Reddit this morning and in 12 hours it has been viewed 5,500 times. See https://www.reddit.com/r/sandiego/co...solar_in_sdge/

I saw that thread and responded. The proper action I believe is to reduce profits. What other business when faced with declining usage of their product or customer loss is still entitled to the same profits? Most businesses have to adjust their profit expectations downward in those conditions.

[RichardCullip]

Yes, in SDG&E country solar can be a very wise choice. I paid cash for our modest 4kW solar system back in early 2019. So far I'm currently 9 months into my yearly true-up period and have used a total of 5,595kWh which, without solar, would have cost me $2,406.44. With solar I'm a modest net producer and, if billed today, SDG&E would owe me $49.98.

[slinthicum]

I posted the chart above on Reddit this morning and in 12 hours it has been viewed 5,500 times. See https://www.reddit.com/r/sandiego/co...solar_in_sdge/

[J.P.M.]

The chart below reflects the reason so many SDGE customers are upset with their energy costs. What concerns me is the result for those neighbors who do not have the financial means to afford the installation of a solar system and the negative consequences they face in terms of carrying the results of higher energy costs because people like me, no longer have that expense. That unfairness I suspect will ultimately result in a NEM 4.0 designed to level the playing field for all. Hence my belief that things will change in the not-too-distant future. Thoughts?

SMUD Comparison.png

The CA CO-OPS are much cheaper. The Imperial Irrigation District (IID) which is my power provider for my Coachella Valley residence sent my last bill of 334 kWh for $66.48 = $0.19904/kWh (with no PV) which is similar to the SDUD rate.

Using my last SDG & E period usage rates for my n. county San Diego residence, that same 334 kWh usage under schedule DR (tiered rate) would have been ~ $151.00., or ~ $0.4521/kWh. My actual usage for that San Diego residence was 654 kWh which, without the PV array on the roof would have been billed at $319.04 or ~ $0.48783/kWh.

[SunEagle]

The chart below reflects the reason so many SDGE customers are upset with their energy costs. What concerns me is the result for those neighbors who do not have the financial means to afford the installation of a solar system and the negative consequences they face in terms of carrying the results of higher energy costs because people like me, no longer have that expense. That unfairness I suspect will ultimately result in a NEM 4.0 designed to level the playing field for all. Hence my belief that things will change in the not-too-distant future. Thoughts?

SMUD Comparison.png

Wow. Some of those are very high. I did a quick calculation using my rate and 750kWh would cost me less then $100. I can see why those that live in areas that same amount of kWh would cost more than $200 can easily justify solar.