Solar Edge Inverter and EV charger

[SunEagle]

I have free charging with one Tesla and pay reasonable fees to charge the other Tesla. Tesla has over 10,000 Superchargers and it is nice to see EA charging stations being installed at some Superchargers. In the past five years charging stations have become ubiquitous except for those without EVs. LOL Because many charge at home we will never see charging stations on every corner like we used to see with gas stations.

I charge mostly at home at $0.20 per kWh and when I go to a Supercharger the rate is $0.28 per kWh for the one Tesla without free charging. That is California and I suspect it could be less in most parts of the country where energy costs less. My wife just took a trip from California through Nevada to Utah and she never incurred a charging expense of more than $12. I remember filling up my sister's pickup truck on a trip and it was $60.

It is good to see the charging system is growing. But how fast and when will the bill come due?

[heimdm]

Bloomington, IN here. Many chargers are located in public/city owned garages. Many the charge is free, but you pay for time to be parked in the garage. There are others that charge $0.35/kwh. Our electric rate for residental is between $0.09 - $0.14/kwh depending on your usage (0-300, 301-700, 701+, is our tiers). We do have Tesla Superchargers, but I don't know their rate.

[Ampster]

It is good to see the charging system is growing. But how fast and when will the bill come due?

I get the bill as soon as I leave a Supercharger or Electrify America station. Again, I am not trying to change your negativity. I just want other readers to see how easy and inexpensive it actually is as the prior posts have demonstrated. The sky is not falling. The system is pretty transparent. You might find it convenient and cost effective some day.

[SunEagle]

I get the bill as soon as I leave a Supercharger or Electrify America station. Again, I am not trying to change your negativity. I just want other readers to see how easy and inexpensive it actually is as the prior posts have demonstrated. The sky is not falling. The system is pretty transparent. You might find it convenient and cost effective some day.

If it was so cost effective then why haven't the POCO's built more charging stations? Also while you have got your bill for use of charging you still have not gotten the real bill that all electric consumers will get when their POCO convinces their PUC that they need to raise their rates to cover these charging stations and batteries.

The truth is EV's will start to be seen more but they will not be owned by the poor and society will become even more divided between the rich and poor.

I guess someone like you that can afford an EV just doesn't care about those that can't.

[Ampster]

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The truth is EV's will start to be seen more but they will not be owned by the poor and society will become even more divided between the rich and poor.

I guess someone like you that can afford an EV just doesn't care about those that can't.

I am glad we can agree that we are in a transition. You may be correct that there will be a bigger divide between the rich and poor. I doubt that divide will be caused by EVs. The transition will be complicated and there will be some left behind. I only hope that some people are able to get past their biases and do a long term cost of operating analysis. Providing another opinion on forums like this is better than giving out handouts. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

[SunEagle]

I am glad we can agree that we are in a transition. You may be correct that there will be a bigger divide between the rich and poor. I doubt that divide will be caused by EVs. The transition will be complicated and there will be some left behind. I only hope that some people are able to get past their biases and do a long term cost of operating analysis. Providing another opinion on forums like this is better than giving out handouts. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

I hope that EV's will come down in price without any Fed rebate. Only then will the poor be able to afford one. While I don't consider myself poor I still am waiting for a quality EV truck because in the countryside where I live you need a high clearance vehicle that can haul which only a truck will fit.

As for EV's hitting a very high percentage of all vehicles. That may happen in the US but only if ICE vehicles become extinct or the price of gas goes over $6 per gallon ( I just paid $3.07/gal). And even then I think people will find a way to drive to work using either gas or diesel because they just don't trust an EV. I have no problems with EV's, I just haven't found one to my liking yet.

I also am concerned that local governments will try to convince people to stop driving which will be a costly and big mistake. I see that there is some type of new legislature in the UK to eliminate personal cars and go to mass transit for all. I think that there will be riots and violence if that law goes through.

[soby]

I hope that EV's will come down in price without any Fed rebate. Only then will the poor be able to afford one. While I don't consider myself poor I still am waiting for a quality EV truck because in the countryside where I live you need a high clearance vehicle that can haul which only a truck will fit.

As for EV's hitting a very high percentage of all vehicles. That may happen in the US but only if ICE vehicles become extinct or the price of gas goes over $6 per gallon ( I just paid $3.07/gal). And even then I think people will find a way to drive to work using either gas or diesel because they just don't trust an EV. I have no problems with EV's, I just haven't found one to my liking yet.

I also am concerned that local governments will try to convince people to stop driving which will be a costly and big mistake. I see that there is some type of new legislature in the UK to eliminate personal cars and go to mass transit for all. I think that there will be riots and violence if that law goes through.

With the current state of EVs and their charging capabilities, I do not recommend anyone living in a rural area buy an EV. ICE vehicles just can't be matched for range and refill rate. Furthermore, a gas/diesel truck is the only practical solution for towing long distances.

[solardreamer]

That may happen in the US but only if ICE vehicles become extinct or the price of gas goes over $6 per gallon

Already there https://media.nbclosangeles.com/2021...trip=all&w=640

[SunEagle]

Already there https://media.nbclosangeles.com/2021...trip=all&w=640

But not in Florida. Which is why there is no urgency to get an EV.

Don't you think there is a conspiracy in CA forcing you to go EV.

[SunEagle]

With the current state of EVs and their charging capabilities, I do not recommend anyone living in a rural area buy an EV. ICE vehicles just can't be matched for range and refill rate. Furthermore, a gas/diesel truck is the only practical solution for towing long distances.

I agree. Right now there is no good reason to get an EV if I need a truck.

[heimdm]

If gas prices are north of $6 a gallon something else is definitely in play in CA. Gas here is sitting round $2.85.