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  • foo1bar
    Solar Fanatic
    • Aug 2014
    • 1833

    #16
    Originally posted by solarix
    What is going on in the solar industry?
    I think it's more the publishing/magazine industry.

    We had 2 magazines that just sent us notice they were stopping publication.
    One was a cooking/recipe magazine, the other was I think "American Girl" (dolls)

    My guess is a printer raised their prices for each print run. (Or a printer went out of business, and the other printers were charging too much for the less profitable magazines to make it work).

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    • peakbagger
      Solar Fanatic
      • Jun 2010
      • 1566

      #17
      There were tariffs placed on paper while back. Not sure how much of an impact it would have been to HP as it was a very small run.

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      • Sunking
        Solar Fanatic
        • Feb 2010
        • 23301

        #18
        Originally posted by J.P.M.
        Glad I bailed on Sunpower when it was ~ $26/sh.
        Question is where you got in?
        I got in at Dec 2006 @ around $35, and out Sept 2007 around $82. Then in Dec 2007 shorted it at $119 and rode that dog down to $50 in 60 days and cleaned out a lot of investors. Also shorted all US solar panel manufactures about the same time and rode them down to bankruptcy. Solyndra noBama baby was was to bankrupt. In two years made a fair bit of money, then converted it and rolled into Amazon and Priceline which I still hold today. $5000 in either one of those at that time makes you a multi-millionaire today, the gift that keep on giving. Thank you Motley Fool.

        Best stock tip today guaranteed to make you a lot money is short Millineals and Socialist Democrats. Short Facebook, Google and Twitter, they are going to tank big time. Do not even have to wait for Congress to investigate them for monopolies. Biz and users are leaving in droves.
        MSEE, PE

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        • J.P.M.
          Solar Fanatic
          • Aug 2013
          • 15015

          #19
          Originally posted by Sunking

          Question is where you got in?
          I got in at Dec 2006 @ around $35, and out Sept 2007 around $82. Then in Dec 2007 shorted it at $119 and rode that dog down to $50 in 60 days and cleaned out a lot of investors. Also shorted all US solar panel manufactures about the same time and rode them down to bankruptcy. Solyndra noBama baby was was to bankrupt. In two years made a fair bit of money, then converted it and rolled into Amazon and Priceline which I still hold today. $5000 in either one of those at that time makes you a multi-millionaire today, the gift that keep on giving. Thank you Motley Fool.

          Best stock tip today guaranteed to make you a lot money is short Millineals and Socialist Democrats. Short Facebook, Google and Twitter, they are going to tank big time. Do not even have to wait for Congress to investigate them for monopolies. Biz and users are leaving in droves.
          Since you ask: Short answer is got in low. Got out higher than I went in and used my Roth IRA as a lever.

          I got an unexpected pension buyout from former employer in 2012.
          Bought 10,000 sh. SPWR 9/06/12 - 12/01/12 @ dollar cost ave. ~ $4.60/sh.
          Plus, bought 1,000 sh. TSLA same period @ ~ $28/sh. dollar cost ave.
          Finagled all of it around into my Roth IRA by buying/selling other stuff already in Roth of = total value.
          Got cold feet on the TSLA Oct. - Nov. 2013 and bailed @ ~ $158/sh.
          Sold 1,000 sh. SPWR 05/14 @ ~ $37/sh. to pay for array install and roof repairs from Oct. 2013.
          Sold remaining 9,000 sh. SPWR April to July, 2015 @ ~ $26+ change, dollar cost ave.

          Nothing fancy. Just buy what I think I know, and otherwise only buy index mut. funds.

          FWIW, one big reason (but not the sole reason) I bought each issue was my undying cynicism of the gullibility of the general public coupled with each of those outfits' slick and polished conjuring of reality (commonly called lying) better than other outfits in a way that manipulates peoples' emotions so they see what you want them to see and believe what you want them to believe. I was a peddler too long not to see their schtick at work. Only difference is those two outfits' B.S. is it comes in bigger piles and was slicker and more polished. In the end, it's just business. To me, not buying those issues at that time was leaving money on the table which would only be picked up by someone else. Besides, it was all done with money that was more/less a windfall.

          So, now I own a S.P. system that was, in effect paid for many times over by S.P. stock appreciation and so, in a way, by the gullibility of some of the same people who bought S.P. that I tell in these very threads/posts almost daily that S.P. is good quality but overpriced, and then have them feel abused at my honest and I believe technically and financially informed opinion that they screwed themselves with their own ignorance induced gullibility.

          I suppose I could by a Tesla, but I'm holding out for a Porsche EV to buy with the proceeds of my ill-gotten TSLA booty - if I live that long. Anything associated with Musk leaves a bad taste in my mouth and a feeling like I need a shower.

          I try to give you complete answers or more as a professional courtesy, but also respectfully to a veteran who's picked up a weapon and stood to post in defense of my country.

          As usual, take what you need. Scrap the rest.

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          • Sunking
            Solar Fanatic
            • Feb 2010
            • 23301

            #20
            Originally posted by J.P.M.
            . Got out higher than I went in and used my Roth IRA as a lever.
            Don't you just love ROTH? It is a secret to tax free wealth.

            Originally posted by J.P.M.
            FWIW, one big reason (but not the sole reason) I bought each issue was my undying cynicism of the gullibility of the general public coupled with each of those outfits' slick and polished conjuring of reality (commonly called lying) better than other outfits in a way that manipulates peoples' emotions so they see what you want them to see and believe what you want them to believe.
            I am guilty as charged. Fools and their money soon part ways. I play both sides Bear and Bull. The Kennedy's made their fortune from shorting fools, and today very few people know that. Sorro's did the same thing and hailed by dems. Funny thing today if JFK were around would be GOP, all his policies were conservative. I am surprised university students have not burned all book on JFK and declared him a traitor. Well he did like doing drugs and women. Oh the horror of lowering taxes, taking on organized crime, standing up to Commies, and "Ask Not What Your Country Can do For You, But What Can You Do For The Country. Oh the honor that must cause youth and dems today.

            Originally posted by J.P.M.
            I try to give you complete answers or more as a professional courtesy, but also respectfully to a veteran who's picked up a weapon and stood to post in defense of my country.
            Like you I was proud to serve and would do it again.
            MSEE, PE

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