SCE TOU -10 c credit

[tweekzilla]

I'm thinking of switching to the SCE TOU-A plan. I'm trying to do some calculations but I'm getting confused by the -10 cents credit issue. Some questions below - any help appreciated

1) You get credit to your account for the amount of energy you generate at the time you do it. i.e. generate on-peak you get 45cents credit per kwh, off-peak 29c per kwh correct?
2) The amount that gets charged to you bill is the amount you net consume in each TOU "zone"?
3) On top of that for each kwh you consume up to your baseline you get an extra 10cents credit per kwh - i.e. if you only consumed in super off-peak it would only cost 1cents/ kwh upto baseline
4) However if you produce electricity, say on-peak, you would actually only receive 35cents/kwh (45-10) up to the baseline produced (same as consumed?) then 45cents after that
5) If 4 is true then you cannot ever actually owe SCE money for generating (unless price goes < 10cents/kwh) you just get less for doing it?
6) Can you use the credits to pay the monthly fee?

[sensij]

You might want to read this thread. Answers below:

I'm thinking of switching to the SCE TOU-A plan. I'm trying to do some calculations but I'm getting confused by the -10 cents credit issue. Some questions below - any help appreciated

1) You get credit to your account for the amount of energy you generate at the time you do it. i.e. generate on-peak you get 45cents credit per kwh, off-peak 29c per kwh correct?

In summer, correct. Winter rates are different, and all are subject to change.

2) The amount that gets charged to you bill is the amount you net consume in each TOU "zone"?

Correct, subject to a monthly minimum that is currently ~$10.

3) On top of that for each kwh you consume up to your baseline you get an extra 10cents credit per kwh - i.e. if you only consumed in super off-peak it would only cost 1cents/ kwh upto baseline

Correct.

4) However if you produce electricity, say on-peak, you would actually only receive 35cents/kwh (45-10) up to the baseline produced (same as consumed?) then 45cents after that

Correct. You can think of the 0.10 as just applying to the total net bill. For example, if you were net generator of 250 kWh across all TOU periods, with a baseline of 250 kWh or higher, that would effectively reduce your credit calculated from the published TOU rates by 0.10 * 250 = $25. If you were net consumer of 100 kWh, that would effectively reduce your amount owed by 0.10 * 100 = $10.

5) If 4 is true then you cannot ever actually owe SCE money for generating (unless price goes < 10cents/kwh) you just get less for doing it?

Correct, although you *can* owe SCE money to meet the minimum bill requirement.

6) Can you use the credits to pay the monthly fee?

No, the minimum bill can not be paid with NEM credits. It is reconciled annually... at true-up, if your total NEM bill is less than $120, you will be charged whatever is needed to bring the total to $120. (ignoring the impact of taxes, fees, CA climate credit, Save Power Days, etc).

[tweekzilla]

Ah thanks for the information - I'm going to look through the other thread.

I couldn't find anywhere one SCE the $10 minimum charge per month. I though the daily rate as 0.031 which is about $1 a month.

Best regards,

Ross

[sensij]

The current tariff is here. Not all SCE webpages have been updated yet with the latest revision. There is a minimum daily charge of $0.329

[tweekzilla]

Damn - Just found the $10 minimum charge that started in October.... Not happy at all....My A/C is going to be running a lot this summer... Really isn't an incentive to save energy at all

[FFE]

Lots of bad info here about the new minimum charge. See my post in the other thread.

[sensij]

Lots of bad info here about the new minimum charge. See my post in the other thread.

See the response in the other thread.