So help me understand this new $10 minimum bill with SCE

[SolarFuture]

There are two types of accounting ledgers... let's call them NEM credits and Account balance.

NEM credits basically come from the net energy charge each month. Under tiered plans, this usually works out to a straight (kWh in - kWh out) times the baseline rate, but when higher tiers are involved, it might not exactly match. Under TOU, energy in each TOU period is converted to dollars and netted out. At the end of the billing year, if you have NEM credits, they disappear, and if you have NEM debit, that amount moves into the Account Balance Ledger.

The Account Balance ledger is real money. Minimum monthly charges accrue here, as well as the CA Climate Credit, any excess generation credits (described in question 2), reduce your use credits (or whatever SCE calls the incentive on demand reduction days), and any balance owed from the NEM ledger. This ledger tabulates the real money that needs to be paid (or received) at the end of the year.

This is sort of a simplified explanation, the exact relationship between the monthly minimum and the NEM ledger varies a bit from one Poco and rate plan to the next. The end result is that you can be sure you will pay at least $120 (less any other Account Balance ledger credits).

I received my bill from SCE a couple days ago and the $38 CA Climate Credit was listed under "Tracked Charges" and was added (technically subtracted?) to my cumulative energy charge/credit for my current relevant period. The full "Bal of minimum charge" was still added (net generator for the month) and is due immediately. This seems to run counter to what you state above regarding the account balance ledger and the climate credit being "real money".

Unless I am misunderstanding something here, looks like SCE is finding more and more ways to screw us.

[sensij]

I received my bill from SCE a couple days ago and the $38 CA Climate Credit was listed under "Tracked Charges" and was added (technically subtracted?) to my cumulative energy charge/credit for my current relevant period. The full "Bal of minimum charge" was still added (net generator for the month) and is due immediately. This seems to run counter to what you state above regarding the account balance ledger and the climate credit being "real money".

Unless I am misunderstanding something here, looks like SCE is finding more and more ways to screw us.

The climate credit will get paid out at true up, if you end up with a real money net credit. The CA Climate Credit is not SCE's program to mess with, they are *required* to pass through what the CPUC specifies.

[SolarFuture]

The climate credit will get paid out at true up, if you end up with a real money net credit. The CA Climate Credit is not SCE's program to mess with, they are *required* to pass through what the CPUC specifies.

Thanks for clarifying and I hope this is the case. It's just odd and confusing that they're rolling it into the tracked charges on the bill.

[FFE]

I made the same assumption you did when I received my bill. Forum member silversaver was kind enough one again to post his true up bill showing what senji wrote is true. It is in the "SCE customers how do you get a $0 bill" thread.

[SolarFuture]

I made the same assumption you did when I received my bill. Forum member silversaver was kind enough one again to post his true up bill showing what senji wrote is true. It is in the "SCE customers how do you get a $0 bill" thread.

Just went through that thread, excellent news! Thanks.