Solar World 280W Mono Black vs Hanwha 260 Watt Panels

[Yaryman]

I've got two bids for my panels.

One is for Hanwha 260 Watt Modules with Solaredge Power Optimizers at $3.4/W ( before tax credit )
The other is for Solar World 280W Mono Black with Enphase M250 Micro Inverters at $3.4/W ( before tax credit )
I'm in the SF Bay area so those seems like good prices.

Both systems are for a appx. 5.1 KW system with the exact same price out the door for each system.

After reading the post about Solaredge vs Enphase several times, it seems like it's 6 of one and a half dozen of the other situation.

So if the optimizers are pretty equivalent, then it comes down to the panels.
It seems like much of what I've read on the forum would side with the Solar World panels being the better of the two.

I haven't been able to find fault with either installer ( no bad reviews ), though one of the companies sells through a salesperson and I've not got the
best vibe from him. After meeting the salesperson, they wouldn't leave any info, just had me to write down the prices he quoted.
AND the original price quote from the salesperson was $2100 higher, and only dropped to an equivalent price when I asked him to match
the other bid. Suddenly there was some play in the pricing. ( no chit ).

Thanks for any opinions.

[sensij]

Hanwha q-cells? Do you know what specific model? it is kind of splitting hairs, There are some models i would probably choose over the solarworld panels.

[Yaryman]

Straight from the offer, "Hanwha 260 Watt Modules with Solaredge Power Optimizers." - no data sheet

Straight from the data sheet, "SolarWorld Sunmodule Plus SW 280 Mono"

[solarix]

I currently use Q-cells as my favorite, best value brand but will have to say the the appearance of the Solarworld panels is better although they usually cost quite a bit more. Go with the SolarWorld, but maybe you can use it to talk down the Q-cell bid....

[emartin00]

I currently use Q-cells as my favorite, best value brand but will have to say the the appearance of the Solarworld panels is better although they usually cost quite a bit more. Go with the SolarWorld, but maybe you can use it to talk down the Q-cell bid....

Just to clarify, Hanwha Solar and Hanwha Q-cells are actually 2 different entities. Confusing, I know... I'm assuming Q-cells was a different company that Hanwha acquired, but their panels are still different.

[Asclepius]

I've got two bids for my panels.

One is for Hanwha 260 Watt Modules with Solaredge Power Optimizers at $3.4/W ( before tax credit )
The other is for Solar World 280W Mono Black with Enphase M250 Micro Inverters at $3.4/W ( before tax credit )
I'm in the SF Bay area so those seems like good prices.

Both systems are for a appx. 5.1 KW system with the exact same price out the door for each system.

After reading the post about Solaredge vs Enphase several times, it seems like it's 6 of one and a half dozen of the other situation.

So if the optimizers are pretty equivalent, then it comes down to the panels.
It seems like much of what I've read on the forum would side with the Solar World panels being the better of the two.

I haven't been able to find fault with either installer ( no bad reviews ), though one of the companies sells through a salesperson and I've not got the
best vibe from him. After meeting the salesperson, they wouldn't leave any info, just had me to write down the prices he quoted.
AND the original price quote from the salesperson was $2100 higher, and only dropped to an equivalent price when I asked him to match
the other bid. Suddenly there was some play in the pricing. ( no **** ).

Thanks for any opinions.

Can you share the name of your installer? Thanks.

[khoang]

Do you mind PM me info about your quote. its a whole lot better than what i'm getting for the same equipment.

I've got two bids for my panels.

One is for Hanwha 260 Watt Modules with Solaredge Power Optimizers at $3.4/W ( before tax credit )
The other is for Solar World 280W Mono Black with Enphase M250 Micro Inverters at $3.4/W ( before tax credit )
I'm in the SF Bay area so those seems like good prices.

Both systems are for a appx. 5.1 KW system with the exact same price out the door for each system.

After reading the post about Solaredge vs Enphase several times, it seems like it's 6 of one and a half dozen of the other situation.

So if the optimizers are pretty equivalent, then it comes down to the panels.
It seems like much of what I've read on the forum would side with the Solar World panels being the better of the two.

I haven't been able to find fault with either installer ( no bad reviews ), though one of the companies sells through a salesperson and I've not got the
best vibe from him. After meeting the salesperson, they wouldn't leave any info, just had me to write down the prices he quoted.
AND the original price quote from the salesperson was $2100 higher, and only dropped to an equivalent price when I asked him to match
the other bid. Suddenly there was some play in the pricing. ( no **** ).

Thanks for any opinions.

[Yaryman]

I currently use Q-cells as my favorite, best value brand but will have to say the the appearance of the Solarworld panels is
better although they usually cost quite a bit more. Go with the SolarWorld, but maybe you can use it to talk down the Q-cell bid....

Doubt very much the Q-cell bid will go down even if they are putting in cheaper panels as their original offer came in at $3.76 and they matched the $3.40 offer.

[solar_newbie]

I've got two bids for my panels.

One is for Hanwha 260 Watt Modules with Solaredge Power Optimizers at $3.4/W ( before tax credit )
The other is for Solar World 280W Mono Black with Enphase M250 Micro Inverters at $3.4/W ( before tax credit )
I'm in the SF Bay area so those seems like good prices.

Both systems are for a appx. 5.1 KW system with the exact same price out the door for each system.

After reading the post about Solaredge vs Enphase several times, it seems like it's 6 of one and a half dozen of the other situation.

So if the optimizers are pretty equivalent, then it comes down to the panels.
It seems like much of what I've read on the forum would side with the Solar World panels being the better of the two.

I haven't been able to find fault with either installer ( no bad reviews ), though one of the companies sells through a salesperson and I've not got the
best vibe from him. After meeting the salesperson, they wouldn't leave any info, just had me to write down the prices he quoted.
AND the original price quote from the salesperson was $2100 higher, and only dropped to an equivalent price when I asked him to match
the other bid. Suddenly there was some play in the pricing. ( no **** ).

Thanks for any opinions.

I personally prefer micro inverter. It is a future. Even Sun power starts product AC panel (micro inverter embedded in solar panel).
Plus Bay Area is not very hot to burn the inverter.

[Yaryman]

I personally prefer micro inverter. It is a future. Even Sun power starts product AC panel (micro inverter embedded in solar panel).
Plus Bay Area is not very hot to burn the inverter.

Much of the Bay Area isn't too hot, but out where I live at the edge, it's a little more toasty during the summer.
Certainly not Bakersfield or Fresno hot, but close to 100 on many summer days.

[solar_newbie]

Much of the Bay Area isn't too hot, but out where I live at the edge, it's a little more toasty during the summer.
Certainly not Bakersfield or Fresno hot, but close to 100 on many summer days.

I do not think 100 is a big thing. My place can reach to 110 in some days in summers. But I do not want to put comments on the different. It is just me.
I doubt any installer company will be here the next 10 - 25 years. They are not public trade company and could close the company tomorrow as wish without any issues .... You should think if one panel is down, can you replace yourself or simple to hire someone to do it as cheap as possible?
For inverter and panel companies, they are public trade companies. If they get close to bankrupt, some companies will buy it... So, I do not really worry about their warranty.

[melbogia]

I've got two bids for my panels.

One is for Hanwha 260 Watt Modules with Solaredge Power Optimizers at $3.4/W ( before tax credit )
The other is for Solar World 280W Mono Black with Enphase M250 Micro Inverters at $3.4/W ( before tax credit )
I'm in the SF Bay area so those seems like good prices.

Both systems are for a appx. 5.1 KW system with the exact same price out the door for each system.

After reading the post about Solaredge vs Enphase several times, it seems like it's 6 of one and a half dozen of the other situation.

So if the optimizers are pretty equivalent, then it comes down to the panels.
It seems like much of what I've read on the forum would side with the Solar World panels being the better of the two.

I haven't been able to find fault with either installer ( no bad reviews ), though one of the companies sells through a salesperson and I've not got the
best vibe from him. After meeting the salesperson, they wouldn't leave any info, just had me to write down the prices he quoted.
AND the original price quote from the salesperson was $2100 higher, and only dropped to an equivalent price when I asked him to match
the other bid. Suddenly there was some play in the pricing. ( no chit ).

Thanks for any opinions.

Do you mind PM'ing me where you got these quotes from? I am getting no less then $4.5/Watt AFTER federal tax credit, in Bay Area.

[khoang]

Do you mind PM'ing me where you got these quotes from? I am getting no less then $4.5/Watt AFTER federal tax credit, in Bay Area.

mine are $4.3 before incentives. I tried to ask many people in the forum for their quotes in details with 0 success. I'm not sure what the issue is but I kind of give up asking. Let me know if you want mine.

[solar_newbie]

mine are $4.3 before incentives. I tried to ask many people in the forum for their quotes in details with 0 success. I'm not sure what the issue is but I kind of give up asking. Let me know if you want mine.

It is strongly to suggest you are doing homework and made decision yourself. It is unfair to installers or it is hard to prefer unless people are sure that the installers are good.
So sharing installer name and quote should be limited as there are no apple to apple comparation.
For local installers, you can get around 3.5/w.
For big installers, you can get 4-5/w
For cost effective and big installers, you can get 3.0-3.29/w. However you have to wait for 4-5 months in queue ...
Those are my experience after talking to over 12 installers in all size.

They are using different type of panels and inverters, so you can google to check the price of equipment to compare between quotes. please note if you use normal string inverter like SMA, you should discount 10%-15% from the quotes since SMA is not expensive and fixed cost. Couple installers told me that and quote with that prices. You can google and compared

Plus be careful to make sure there are no additional cost on electrical and expect if you grown in the future , there is the room(if you care about it)
Sometimes, people have the way to negotiate lower price by supersize their need as incremental cost for installers is just panel, rack and couple power cable (and inverter if you use micro inverter ...)
You can do the same.

[khoang]

It is strongly to suggest you are doing homework and made decision yourself. It is unfair to installers or it is hard to prefer unless people are sure that the installers are good.
So sharing installer name and quote should be limited as there are no apple to apple comparation.
For local installers, you can get around 3.5/w.
For big installers, you can get 4-5/w
For cost effective and big installers, you can get 3.0-3.29/w. However you have to wait for 4-5 months in queue ...
Those are my experience after talking to over 12 installers in all size.

They are using different type of panels and inverters, so you can google to check the price of equipment to compare between quotes. please note if you use normal string inverter like SMA, you should discount 10%-15% from the quotes since SMA is not expensive and fixed cost. Couple installers told me that and quote with that prices. You can google and compared

Plus be careful to make sure there are no additional cost on electrical and expect if you grown in the future , there is the room(if you care about it)
Sometimes, people have the way to negotiate lower price by supersize their need as incremental cost for installers is just panel, rack and couple power cable (and inverter if you use micro inverter ...)
You can do the same.

This is an absolute moot point. Everyone here have done plenty of googling. Just because we have not come across a low-priced installer does not mean that we have not done enough research. And when is researching and knowledge can not be leveraged? What is not fair to the installers? Should all the installers form a union and monopolize? No one is asking you for reference or hold you liable for your recommendation. People are simply asking for a point of contact to see if they can get a reason quote and decide on their own. If you are so keen that everyone should do their own research instead of leveraging on other's finding then what are you doing on this forum instead of googling?

I'm sorry that other people have to read this. This is my last time posting on this thread since its clear that this poster is only interested in seeking info from other.