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  • MARKSDCA
    Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 82

    #1

    DIY 5kW system in San Diego Hyundai panels anyone?

    First post here! I have been putting together a system on paper for my roof in Pt Loma (San Diego). I have found what looks like a very low price on Hyundai panels (250 watt panels at 0.75/watt or $188/panel) The shipping from Massachusetts is about $600 for the pallet. That's 87 cents/watt including delivery and no sales tax.

    I can't seem to find a better deal and being a natural born skeptic I am thinking "why do I want 75 cent/watt panels when so many in this forum are paying 10-20% more?" Am I doing something wrong or did I hit a home run? Is Hyundai dumping these panels because they are bad or ??

    And for the record I am meeting with a solar planner tomorrow who will for a fee get me measured and get me permit approval from the City. I also will hire an installer but I plan to buy everything myself per the recommendation of the planner and the installer. I already bought the inverter (a new version Fronius 6000w with AFCI) as I stumbled on a great deal on it.

    Input appreciated and thanks in advance. PS: My south facing no shade roof is gigantic.
    DIY 7.3 kW "I COUNT NONE BUT SUNNY HOURS"
  • Panelmal
    Banned
    • Nov 2014
    • 39

    #2
    Just a comment from an installer - those panels are slippery as hell for some reason. Stack them up and watch them float around like like a puck on an air hockey table.

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    • foo1bar
      Solar Fanatic
      • Aug 2014
      • 1833

      #3
      Originally posted by MARKSDCA
      I can't seem to find a better deal and being a natural born skeptic I am thinking "why do I want 75 cent/watt panels when so many in this forum are paying 10-20% more?" Am I doing something wrong or did I hit a home run? Is Hyundai dumping these panels because they are bad or ??
      I paid $1/watt, but wanted/needed 280W panels because 250W panels wouldn't have had provided enough power in the roof area I have.
      For 250W poly-crystaline panels, it looks like $.70 to $.75/watt is price at where I got my panels.

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      • MARKSDCA
        Member
        • Apr 2015
        • 82

        #4
        So I ended up with 22 270KW Solarworld panels at 80 cents/watt. I picked them up so the delivery was $125 (Rented a minivan plus gas!!)
        DIY 7.3 kW "I COUNT NONE BUT SUNNY HOURS"

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        • foo1bar
          Solar Fanatic
          • Aug 2014
          • 1833

          #5
          Originally posted by MARKSDCA
          So I ended up with 22 270KW Solarworld panels at 80 cents/watt. I picked them up so the delivery was $125 (Rented a minivan plus gas!!)
          Who/where?

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          • MARKSDCA
            Member
            • Apr 2015
            • 82

            #6
            Originally posted by foo1bar
            Who/where?
            Found them on Craigslist in Topanga / Agoura
            DIY 7.3 kW "I COUNT NONE BUT SUNNY HOURS"

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            • JFinch57
              Solar Fanatic
              • Feb 2015
              • 159

              #7
              Originally posted by MARKSDCA
              Found them on Craigslist in Topanga / Agoura
              There are so many scams on Craigslist, I'd forget about that! I bought panels twice from Fred at HiTech Solar. He's on Ebay as Fred480V and here's one of his listings. He ships R&L and only takes Paypal, for which there is no additional fee. I recently bought 260W Isophoton mono panels that were not listed on Ebay, he sent me an invoice and I paid. The panels arrived 1 week later. See http://www.ebay.com/itm/25-255-MOTEC...item3cf69c81bf
              Jeff, BSEE, 22.3KW, 45-240W w/M190, 46-260W w/M250

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              • JFinch57
                Solar Fanatic
                • Feb 2015
                • 159

                #8
                I got the 260W version of this panel but they're not installed yet. He probably has more. http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-245w-Isof...item3f4a5caa18
                Jeff, BSEE, 22.3KW, 45-240W w/M190, 46-260W w/M250

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                • MARKSDCA
                  Member
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 82

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JFinch57
                  There are so many scams on Craigslist, I'd forget about that! I bought panels twice from Fred at HiTech Solar. He's on Ebay as Fred480V and here's one of his listings. He ships R&L and only takes Paypal, for which there is no additional fee. I recently bought 260W Isophoton mono panels that were not listed on Ebay, he sent me an invoice and I paid. The panels arrived 1 week later. See http://www.ebay.com/itm/25-255-MOTEC...item3cf69c81bf
                  I picked them up already......they were in an unopened pallet and had 2014 manufacture date on them...great looking panels......seems legit to me. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst...951536238.html
                  DIY 7.3 kW "I COUNT NONE BUT SUNNY HOURS"

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                  • JFinch57
                    Solar Fanatic
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 159

                    #10
                    Oh, I missed your post that you picked them up, thought it was Craigslist from MA. Good luck, looks great!
                    Jeff, BSEE, 22.3KW, 45-240W w/M190, 46-260W w/M250

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                    • MARKSDCA
                      Member
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 82

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JFinch57
                      Oh, I missed your post that you picked them up, thought it was Craigslist from MA. Good luck, looks great!
                      Now you have me paranoid. I am going to pick up a multimeter from Home Depot and make sure they generate some voltage when in the sun....I guess I could have done that when I picked them up but they were in an unpacked pallet.....hmmmm.
                      DIY 7.3 kW "I COUNT NONE BUT SUNNY HOURS"

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                      • bcroe
                        Solar Fanatic
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 5209

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MARKSDCA
                        Now you have me paranoid. I am going to pick up a multimeter from Home Depot and make sure they generate some voltage when in the sun....I guess I could have done that when I picked them up but they were in an unpacked pallet.....hmmmm.
                        Its pretty hard to do a meaningful test in transit. And a voltmeter is the least meaning
                        test, if the first & easiest. I'd recommend getting a panel in good sun and check the
                        short circuit current. Hard to do that with a cheap meter, I'd find a 100 watt one ohm
                        resistor and connect it to the panel. Every volt across it indicates an amp of flow, and
                        yes it will get hot.

                        The real test is running at Vmp & near Imp. In string operation, I rejected several
                        panels that passed all the prelim tests, but just couldn't keep up with the rest of
                        the string. Bruce Roe

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                        • MARKSDCA
                          Member
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 82

                          #13
                          Got the $20 multimeter from Home Depot and got 35V and 6.9A at 8:45 in the morning for a total of 240 watts from this 270 watt panel. It weas just leaned up against the BBQ in my backyard.

                          Disclaimer: I'm not an electrician or a solar expert but I did plug in a vacuum cleaner and wore sunglasses this past weekend so please understand the level of my credentials.
                          DIY 7.3 kW "I COUNT NONE BUT SUNNY HOURS"

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                          • J.P.M.
                            Solar Fanatic
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 15015

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MARKSDCA
                            Got the $20 multimeter from Home Depot and got 35V and 6.9A at 8:45 in the morning for a total of 240 watts from this 270 watt panel. It weas just leaned up against the BBQ in my backyard.

                            Disclaimer: I'm not an electrician or a solar expert but I did plug in a vacuum cleaner and wore sunglasses this past weekend so please understand the level of my credentials.
                            Wearing sunglasses while vacuuming seems a bit eccentric.

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                            • MARKSDCA
                              Member
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 82

                              #15
                              Originally posted by J.P.M.
                              Wearing sunglasses while vacuuming seems a bit eccentric.
                              Not at the same time! But you knew that already.

                              So I sat there and waited for the sun to pop out from a morning cloud and I saw the amps shoot from 1-2 to 6 pretty fast...very cool stuff! I will test a bit later when the sun is stronger.
                              DIY 7.3 kW "I COUNT NONE BUT SUNNY HOURS"

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