Calculating price per watt

[point1]

Thanks J.P.M and to several of you who PMed me with recommendations for Solar companies.


Anymore recommendations are welcome!

[J.P.M.]

Thanks J.P.M and to several of you who PMed me with recommendations for Solar companies.


Anymore recommendations are welcome!

You're Welcome.

[EnergyMan]

Hi Point1,
I live here in Corona and I recently sign a contract with HelioPower after seeing 6 other vendors. They were the only ones who offer something different from the rest of the companies out there, they have an Energy Optimization plan which is both a Generation and Reduction solution. So I can definitely shed some light on the subject if you have any questions. Cheers!
Oh and also the have a SunPower Modules, but I ended up going with Panasonic HIT 240S due to my roof.

[tifache]

Really interested to know who did you use

I figured out the local subcontractor some of bigger companies use, yelp'd and realized the subcontractor has a great reputation and history, and went with them directly. Using generic panels, my upcoming install is priced at $2.97/watt. PM me if you are in the SD area.

Just went through the forum and found your post. We just moved in Escondido and we are interested in the contractor you used. Found you handle on few places I read from time to time (beamer guy too). I am to new on this forum to be able to send PMs.

Thank you in advance.

[scrippsbruin96]

Just went through the forum and found your post. We just moved in Escondido and we are interested in the contractor you used. Found you handle on few places I read from time to time (beamer guy too). I am to new on this forum to be able to send PMs.

Thank you in advance.

PM'd you.

Yes, solar panels powering my Beamer, loving it!

[tifache]

PM'd you.

Yes, solar panels powering my Beamer, loving it!

Thank you for info!
Got your PM, still I cannot reply by PM yet, but I'm in. Great price and system for the $$$. I WANT to talk to your guy.Please PM me how I can get in touch with him/you.
Really appreciate you help.

[sdnd]

i'm in san diego as well...please PM me your installer as i'm a newbie and I can't send pms yet.

thanks!

[bronxnua]

this is my 2014 usage that I compiled from SCE

January $309 1284 killowatts
February $294 1221 kilowatts
March $356 1440 kilowatts
April $324 1441 kilowatts
May $452 1739 kilowatts
June $377 1675 kilowatts
July $494 2068 kilowatts
August $466 1993 kilowatts
September $668 2680 kilowatts
October $432 1742 kilowatts
November $447 1665 kilowatts
December $346 1316 kilowatts

If I showed you bills if I use the same KWH in Bronx, NY.

Con Edison kills me.. I once used $389 in electricity Mining, my bill was $1050 from Con Edison delivery and tax , plus fee charges.

****en crazy.

[sensij]

If I showed you bills if I use the same KWH in Bronx, NY.

Con Edison kills me.. I once used $389 in electricity Mining, my bill was $1050 from Con Edison delivery and tax , plus fee charges.

****en crazy.

Would you be willing to scan in a copy of the bill with your personal info removed? I'd love to see how the math works on that. Sounds like there must be some kind of demand pricing involved, but who knows.

[bronxnua]

Would you be willing to scan in a copy of the bill with your personal info removed? I'd love to see how the math works on that. Sounds like there must be some kind of demand pricing involved, but who knows.

From Date

To Date

Elec Use (Kwh)

Elec Demand (Kw)

Con Ed Electric Bill Amt

ESCO Electric Supply Amt

Gas Use (Therm)

Con Ed Gas Bill Amt

ESCO Gas Supply Amt

Total Bill Amt

03/23/2015 05/20/2015 704 0.00 $127.41 $65.48 -- -- -- $192.89
04/21/2015 05/20/2015 -- -- -- -- 3 $20.34 $2.6 $22.94
03/23/2015 04/21/2015 -- -- -- -- 4 $21.45 $3.47 $24.92
01/21/2015 03/23/2015 969 0.00 $162.8 $90.12 -- -- -- $252.92
02/20/2015 03/23/2015 -- -- -- -- 7 $26.16 $6.08 $32.24
01/21/2015 02/20/2015 -- -- -- -- 5 $23.24 $4.34 $27.58
12/19/2014 01/21/2015 358 0.00 $67.02 $33.29 6 $26.14 $5.2 $131.65
11/18/2014 12/19/2014 792 0.00 $122.07 $73.66 5 $23.84 $4.34 $223.91
10/20/2014 11/18/2014 124 0.00 $33.72 $11.54 4 $21.57 $3.47 $70.3
09/18/2014 10/20/2014 957 0.00 $149.49 $89 4 $23.4 $3.47 $265.36
07/21/2014 09/18/2014 4,003 0.00 $605.91 $372.3 8 $43.91 $6.95 $1,029.07
06/19/2014 07/21/2014 2,148 0.00 $333.16 $199.77 5 $24.65 $4.34 $561.92
05/20/2014 06/19/2014 821 0.00 $136.32 $76.36 3 $21.03 $2.6 $236.31
03/21/2014 05/20/2014 3,713 0.00 $950.04 -- -- -- -- $950.04
04/21/2014 05/20/2014 -- -- -- -- 5 $23.01 $4.34 $27.35
03/21/2014 04/21/2014 -- -- -- -- 4 $22.92 $3.47 $26.39
02/20/2014 03/21/2014 -- -- -- -- 5 $22.9 $4.02 $26.92
02/20/2014 03/21/2014 1,231 0.00 $382.9 -- -- -- -- $382.9
01/21/2014 02/20/2014 -- -- -- -- 5 $23.44 $2.82 $26.26
01/21/2014 02/20/2014 1,273 0.00 $148.48 $218.84 -- -- -- $367.32
12/19/2013 01/21/2014 1,124 0.00 $166.76 $84.57 7 $27.56 $3.95 $282.84
11/18/2013 12/19/2013 512 0.00 $87.77 $38.52 4 $22.74 $2.26 $151.29
09/18/2013 11/18/2013 1,786 0.00 $267.91 $134.38 -- -- -- $402.29
10/18/2013 11/18/2013 -- -- -- -- 5 $23.94 $2.82 $26.76
09/18/2013 10/18/2013 -- -- -- -- 4 $22.15 $2.26 $24.41
08/19/2013 09/18/2013 601 0.00 $98.69 $45.22 3 $20.96 $1.69 $166.56
07/19/2013 08/19/2013 826 0.00 $127.1 $62.15 3 $21.65 $1.69 $212.59
06/19/2013 07/19/2013 -- -- -- -- 3 $20.98 $1.69 $22.67
06/19/2013 07/19/2013 799 0.00 $127.11 $60.12 -- -- -- $187.23
05/20/2013 06/19/2013 800 0.00 $219.66 -- -- -- -- $219.66

[SunEagle]

From Date

To Date

Elec Use (Kwh)

Elec Demand (Kw)

Con Ed Electric Bill Amt

ESCO Electric Supply Amt

Gas Use (Therm)

Con Ed Gas Bill Amt

ESCO Gas Supply Amt

Total Bill Amt

03/23/2015 05/20/2015 704 0.00 $127.41 $65.48 -- -- -- $192.89
04/21/2015 05/20/2015 -- -- -- -- 3 $20.34 $2.6 $22.94
03/23/2015 04/21/2015 -- -- -- -- 4 $21.45 $3.47 $24.92
01/21/2015 03/23/2015 969 0.00 $162.8 $90.12 -- -- -- $252.92
02/20/2015 03/23/2015 -- -- -- -- 7 $26.16 $6.08 $32.24
01/21/2015 02/20/2015 -- -- -- -- 5 $23.24 $4.34 $27.58
12/19/2014 01/21/2015 358 0.00 $67.02 $33.29 6 $26.14 $5.2 $131.65
11/18/2014 12/19/2014 792 0.00 $122.07 $73.66 5 $23.84 $4.34 $223.91
10/20/2014 11/18/2014 124 0.00 $33.72 $11.54 4 $21.57 $3.47 $70.3
09/18/2014 10/20/2014 957 0.00 $149.49 $89 4 $23.4 $3.47 $265.36
07/21/2014 09/18/2014 4,003 0.00 $605.91 $372.3 8 $43.91 $6.95 $1,029.07
06/19/2014 07/21/2014 2,148 0.00 $333.16 $199.77 5 $24.65 $4.34 $561.92
05/20/2014 06/19/2014 821 0.00 $136.32 $76.36 3 $21.03 $2.6 $236.31
03/21/2014 05/20/2014 3,713 0.00 $950.04 -- -- -- -- $950.04
04/21/2014 05/20/2014 -- -- -- -- 5 $23.01 $4.34 $27.35
03/21/2014 04/21/2014 -- -- -- -- 4 $22.92 $3.47 $26.39
02/20/2014 03/21/2014 -- -- -- -- 5 $22.9 $4.02 $26.92
02/20/2014 03/21/2014 1,231 0.00 $382.9 -- -- -- -- $382.9
01/21/2014 02/20/2014 -- -- -- -- 5 $23.44 $2.82 $26.26
01/21/2014 02/20/2014 1,273 0.00 $148.48 $218.84 -- -- -- $367.32
12/19/2013 01/21/2014 1,124 0.00 $166.76 $84.57 7 $27.56 $3.95 $282.84
11/18/2013 12/19/2013 512 0.00 $87.77 $38.52 4 $22.74 $2.26 $151.29
09/18/2013 11/18/2013 1,786 0.00 $267.91 $134.38 -- -- -- $402.29
10/18/2013 11/18/2013 -- -- -- -- 5 $23.94 $2.82 $26.76
09/18/2013 10/18/2013 -- -- -- -- 4 $22.15 $2.26 $24.41
08/19/2013 09/18/2013 601 0.00 $98.69 $45.22 3 $20.96 $1.69 $166.56
07/19/2013 08/19/2013 826 0.00 $127.1 $62.15 3 $21.65 $1.69 $212.59
06/19/2013 07/19/2013 -- -- -- -- 3 $20.98 $1.69 $22.67
06/19/2013 07/19/2013 799 0.00 $127.11 $60.12 -- -- -- $187.23
05/20/2013 06/19/2013 800 0.00 $219.66 -- -- -- -- $219.66

Looks like the usage rate fluctuates from about $0.15 to about $0.18/kWh and demand rate is $0.093/kWh.

So in total about $0.24 to $0.27/kWh which is higher then most other areas.

[bronxnua]

Looks like the usage rate fluctuates from about $0.15 to about $0.18/kWh and demand rate is $0.093/kWh.

So in total about $0.24 to $0.27/kWh which is higher then most other areas.

1,786 0.00 KWH $267.91 $134.38 -- -- -- $402.29 No you see I used $134.48 and Con Edison charged me $267.91 for using $134.48 of electricity.

[SunEagle]

1,786 0.00 KWH $267.91 $134.38 -- -- -- $402.29 No you see I used $134.48 and Con Edison charged me $267.91 for using $134.48 of electricity.

First off that $402.29 bill was for two months 9/18/13 to 11/18/13.

The $267.91 was calculated at $0.15/kWh for 1786 kWh of "Elec Use".

The $134.38 was calculated at $0.075/kWh for 1786 kWh for "Elec Demand".

If you total those you paid about $0.225/kWh for 1786 kWh or about $402.

Back in 5/13 they were charging you a single rate of $0.275/kWh where you used 800 kWh and got billed for $219.66.

It looks like now they are now charging you about $0.27/kWh only they split it into two areas. Usage and Demand.

I am not saying that isn't a high electric rate. I am saying that all POCO's have different ways to charge people which can be simple or confusing.

[bronxnua]

First off that $402.29 bill was for two months 9/18/13 to 11/18/13.

The $267.91 was calculated at $0.15/kWh for 1786 kWh of "Elec Use".

The $134.38 was calculated at $0.075/kWh for 1786 kWh for "Elec Demand".

If you total those you paid about $0.225/kWh for 1786 kWh or about $402.

Back in 5/13 they were charging you a single rate of $0.275/kWh where you used 800 kWh and got billed for $219.66.

It looks like now they are now charging you about $0.27/kWh only they split it into two areas. Usage and Demand.

I am not saying that isn't a high electric rate. I am saying that all POCO's have different ways to charge people which can be simple or confusing.

I was on two month billing, when I switched to esco it became monthly. at first my esco was 6.9 Cents per kwh , then they stopped, new rate was 8.9kwh fixed for 3 years.


I know that if I use $100 I get about a $350 bill. That is crazy. My new 35 Panel 327w Sun Power system will produce over 1000kwh per month.

I am no longer mining. so that is going to be solid $207 fixed for 20 years.

No fluctuation, when I switch to gas for my heat, that will be offset by the net metering on my bill.

[SunEagle]

I was on two month billing, when I switched to esco it became monthly. at first my esco was 6.9 Cents per kwh , then they stopped, new rate was 8.9kwh fixed for 3 years.


I know that if I use $100 I get about a $350 bill. That is crazy. My new 35 Panel 327w Sun Power system will produce over 1000kwh per month.

I am no longer mining. so that is going to be solid $207 fixed for 20 years.

No fluctuation, when I switch to gas for my heat, that will be offset by the net metering on my bill.

I think you are misunderstanding how they are charging you for electricity. If you go back and add the two Electric costs (use & demand) and divide by the total kWh for each billing period you are being charged between $0.22 and $0.27/kWh. How they list those charges on the bill can be confusing but in the end you are not really paying anywhere close to $0.089/kWh

Now with your new solar pv system you should be able to reduce your electric bill but I am not sure how much. If you are paying $207/mth for the solar pv system you will probably still be charged for a connection fee every month even if you don't purchase electricity from Con-Ed.

Let us know how it works out for you.