Calculating price per watt

[bronxnua]

I think you are misunderstanding how they are charging you for electricity. If you go back and add the two Electric costs (use & demand) and divide by the total kWh for each billing period you are being charged between $0.22 and $0.27/kWh. How they list those charges on the bill can be confusing but in the end you are not really paying anywhere close to $0.089/kWh

Now with your new solar pv system you should be able to reduce your electric bill but I am not sure how much. If you are paying $207/mth for the solar pv system you will probably still be charged for a connection fee every month even if you don't purchase electricity from Con-Ed.

Let us know how it works out for you.

I pay .089 per KWH to the esco, con Edison charges for them... and the rest are delivery , taxes and all else.

[J.P.M.]

I pay .089 per KWH to the esco, con Edison charges for them... and the rest are delivery , taxes and all else.

You and/or your POCO and call it what you want, but your wallet doesn't care.

[SunEagle]

I pay .089 per KWH to the esco, con Edison charges for them... and the rest are delivery , taxes and all else.

And I pay $0.07/kWh for my first 1000kWh and $0.0836/kWh for anything above that 1000kWh per month.

I also pay a fuel charge between $0.04 and $0.05/kWh, plus $8.76/mth meter charge, plus $7.48/mth surge suppression equipment charge, plus ~ $28/mth taxes.

It comes down to about $0.12/kWh for the electric usage & fuel, but about $0.15/kWh for my total bill with an average monthly bill (for the last couple of years) around $210/month.

So what am I really paying for electricity usage? $0.075/kWh, $0.12/kWh or $0.15/kWh. It is still low compared to others.

[bronxnua]

And I pay $0.07/kWh for my first 1000kWh and $0.0836/kWh for anything above that 1000kWh per month.

I also pay a fuel charge between $0.04 and $0.05/kWh, plus $8.76/mth meter charge, plus $7.48/mth surge suppression equipment charge, plus ~ $28/mth taxes.

It comes down to about $0.12/kWh for the electric usage & fuel, but about $0.15/kWh for my total bill with an average monthly bill (for the last couple of years) around $210/month.

So what am I really paying for electricity usage? $0.075/kWh, $0.12/kWh or $0.15/kWh. It is still low compared to others.

If I paid all .15 per KWH total I would never go Solar. I would wait for Fuel Cell, that is coming in the future a few years out.

My total is about .45 per KWH when all is added.

[SunEagle]

If I paid all .15 per KWH total I would never go Solar. I would wait for Fuel Cell, that is coming in the future a few years out.

My total is about .45 per KWH when all is added.

Wow $0.45/kWh. Ouch.

Yeah my lower cost is what has stopped me from going solar even though I want to. It is just not financially viable today and may not be before I sell my current home.

At least I have a plan to have solar on my retirement home (whenever that happens)

[bronxnua]

Wow $0.45/kWh. Ouch.

Yeah my lower cost is what has stopped me from going solar even though I want to. It is just not financially viable today and may not be before I sell my current home.

At least I have a plan to have solar on my retirement home (whenever that happens)

That is why I am doing solar, I want a bill that will not change for 20 years. $207 lease fixed while Con Edison drives the costs higher and higher I won't have to worry much.

my net metering should cover the cost of the gas that I use for cooking. I will use about 700-800 Average and produce over 12K KWH during the year averages over 1000 per month.

So that is a plus for me. Once I upgrade my boiler to gas it will help pay for some of the heating costs in gas.

[bronxnua]

Wow $0.45/kWh. Ouch.

Yeah my lower cost is what has stopped me from going solar even though I want to. It is just not financially viable today and may not be before I sell my current home.

At least I have a plan to have solar on my retirement home (whenever that happens)

That is why I am doing solar, I want a bill that will not change for 20 years. $207 lease fixed while Con Edison drives the costs higher and higher I won't have to worry much.

my net metering should cover the cost of the gas that I use for cooking. I will use about 700-800 Average and produce over 12K KWH during the year averages over 1000 per month.

So that is a plus for me. Once I upgrade my boiler to gas it will help pay for some of the heating costs in gas.

I will still have to pay a basic service charge with Con Edison that adds about $40 bucks extra for the electric basic and the gas I use with all the charges.
So my bill will be about $250 monthly. Still a good thing I don't have a crazy fluctuating bill.

[SunEagle]

I will still have to pay a basic service charge with Con Edison that adds about $40 bucks extra for the electric basic and the gas I use with all the charges.
So my bill will be about $250 monthly. Still a good thing I don't have a crazy fluctuating bill.

+1. Sounds like a good plan.

[bronxnua]

First off that $402.29 bill was for two months 9/18/13 to 11/18/13.

The $267.91 was calculated at $0.15/kWh for 1786 kWh of "Elec Use".

The $134.38 was calculated at $0.075/kWh for 1786 kWh for "Elec Demand".

If you total those you paid about $0.225/kWh for 1786 kWh or about $402.

Back in 5/13 they were charging you a single rate of $0.275/kWh where you used 800 kWh and got billed for $219.66.

It looks like now they are now charging you about $0.27/kWh only they split it into two areas. Usage and Demand.

I am not saying that isn't a high electric rate. I am saying that all POCO's have different ways to charge people which can be simple or confusing.

My usage is 8.9 Cents fixed all other charges are from Con Edison.