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The situation is so screwed that I can't even fire the guy apparently. I've reached out to the Registrar of Contractors to get information on how the process of a formal complaint would work and I'm waiting on an email back but I was told by another electrians that I can't bring in someone new to finish the job at this point. I have to file a formal complaint with the ROC and also give the current installer written notice of my intent to fire him and bring in someone new otherwise I risk being sued for not giving the installer a fair chance to correct whatever problems there are...as if I haven't given him plently of chances and been more than patient already.
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Just as an outsider, I am very impressed with your attitude under these poor circumstances. I know you are going through turmoil but I would want the kind of thought, research and attention to detail you've put into your system. I probably didn't get that with my install. That piece of mind, you can say later, was all worth it. Just tell us you didn't use all your family vacation time on this project
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You seem to be ignoring any suggestions of getting legal advice, just like you ignored the suggestions that were given when you began this whole thing. Why is that? I think there is a pretty good chance you are turning this thing from a clear cut case into a he said/he said case. The installer can claim any poor workmanship was done by you, and there's no proof either way.Comment
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No doubt he's a liar but if he's going to go that route, he could have blamed me for it even if I never touched anything.
I think all the photos, emails and text message conversations I have will be proof enough to show that he is in fact to blame if it comes down to that.Comment
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At this point, I think you need to find a 3rd party good installer to walk you through the insallation and making sure the job is good and complete. Pay him a fee will save your trouble.
You have good solid standoffs and racks you build. All you need is making sure the permit/inspection is passed. If you are not too sure with all the codes, please ask the right person to do final job for you.
Don't waste your time here trying to get it done by yourself.Comment
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But I don't think a small claims judge would believe an installer that says "Your honor, he musta gone on the roof and undid all my good work and did his own!!!"
But he'll believe your installer, because you really did go up there and re-do much of it, and which part is the judge going to think you did? The part that was done professionally, or the part that looked like it was done by a homeowner?
Edit: The Professional part of the install I refer to is the work you did, just want to make that clear, I think you did a great job.Comment
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What about this part?
I think all the photos, emails and text message conversations I have will be proof enough to show that he is in fact to blame if it comes down to that."
Here, I'll even put up a screenshot from my text messages with him right after the roofing thing happened...
I also have texts that specifically talk about him using the plastic flex conduit instead of 1" EMT and about using 6AWG instead of #4 and #2 where specified on the permit.Comment
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That's good documentation, but I still think an attorney would be a good investment because making a wrong move could really screw things up.Comment
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I am aware it shouldn't pull out without extreme force. The question is, exactly what else is the HO going to get out of this installer before the doo starts really flying. I'd hate to see him end up in court, but being at the insurance company office filing a claim for a burned house is worse.
I was just trying to point out where the installer's head might be - aside from the obvious place.Comment
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I agree 100%. I have been involved in a civil lawsuit, and local zoning issues. If you want it done right, bring an attorney. They aren't cheap, but if you want to win they are indispensable. As to whether the HO here needs one and/or a court of law, I don't know. I am surprised the contractor and HO still have a relationship, and this job is as close to completion as it is.Comment
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That's what blows my mind too. I would love at least an explanation from him, or from anyone, of what the heck is in this guy's head.
Why the hell wouldn't he just get this over with already. I mean it's so close you'd think he would just come out for a couple of hours (at most) and fix the issues quickly and move on. I really don't understand where his head is...does he like being pestered every day about it?
Even more confusing is why he keeps doing things wrong, , when he knows it's wrong, its so weird.
Like I gave the example earlier about the conduit. I made him change this...
To this...
He knew from my verbally telling him, and telling him by text message, and the fact that it's listed right on the permit, that the new conduit needed to be 1". I saw him with a 10 ft piece of 1" conduit after he removed the plastic flexible conduit.
Then he installed 3/4". *head explodes*
Like seriously WHY. Was he trying to prove a point thinking the inspector would pass it with 3/4" and then he could shove it in my face that he was right? I really don't get it.
Using undersized wire I can at least see why...it's way way cheeper, like 1/4 of the cost. He was probably confident it would pass with that smaller wire so why spend more. But the conduit? It costs virtually the same, maybe $2-$3 more for the whole 10' of conduit. And he already had the piece there.Comment
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I have #2 wires from main to sub, the 3/4 conduit is hard to pull wires through and had to replace with larger ones.Comment
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