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  • Cyang
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    Originally posted by s_man
    Hi Bob,
    Could you p.m. me the company info? Thanks!
    Bob, I'm in Aliso Viejo too. Could you p.m. The company info too?

    Thank you

    Calvin

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  • Beanyboy57
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    Originally posted by Alisobob
    Woo-Hoo!!

    Its been pouring rain since about 4:30 am or so... its just now tapering off.


    Dry as baby powder in the house!!!

    Hope everyone else is too....

    I wish I had replaced my concrete tiles before the solar install, damn it.

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  • s_man
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    Thank you, Bob for your info!

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  • s_man
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    Originally posted by Alisobob
    Wow..... (wow, wow, wow)

    I took the boards advice, and contacted a small, local company with nothing but 5 star reviews on Yelp. No Russ..... I wont say the name.

    This is their deal....
    24 , 270 watt Solar World MONO panels ( 6480 watt total)
    24 Enphase Inverters
    Envoy monitoring with life time web access
    Attic run electrical, nothing on roof
    Move v ents as needed
    R/R all Roof Tile under solar panels to repaper roof.
    25 year warranty for all parts and labor. If product supplier goes out of business, they will pick up the remainder of supplier warranty
    4 year maintenance agreement ( Wash panels, inspect wiring, etc..etc.. 2 x per year) after 4 years, service is $150 per year if so desired
    NO PANEL UPGRADE NEEDED! They will flip around some circuits to make the panel "End Fed" which will satisfy the building inspector without replacing the panel.

    All permits and HOA paperwork included

    Price: $23,291 ( 3.59 per watt installed)

    -30% Tax Credit $16,303 ( $2.51 per watt installed)

    It looks like this is the way I'm going to go.....

    Thanks everyone. Bob
    Hi Bob,
    Could you p.m. me the company info? Thanks!

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  • silversaver
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    Originally posted by Alisobob
    Thanks JPM...

    I want to make somethings very clear... if and when I say "My system is ahead of the PV Watts forcast", remember two things.

    1. Weather is fickle. California was way behind in annual rainfall. Thats means more sunny days than usual are occurring . It would be expected to be ahead of the PV Watts numbers right now, only to fall behind if and when the rains do return.

    2. As JPM stated, the closer you come to zeroing out your bill, the closer you come to leaving money on the table. I wanted to come close to zeroing out my current bill, as a EV may be in my future, or maybe a pool. I wanted a little "reserve", just in case. For many, just removing the Tier 2,3, and 4 charges will make more economic sense. Everyone do your own homework, and no peeking.

    I expect to have solar success's, as well as solar failures. Its all here for everyone to see. I'm trying to keep it fun and interesting so folks will stop in from time to time.... with the goal of them learning something along the way.

    Bob
    Totally agree. I purchased 2 EVs after solar installed and so is my neighbor on his Tesla. We both want/need a larger system.

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  • J.P.M.
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    Understood.

    As for # 2: Maybe I wrote that, but I don't recall doing it. More importantly, I'm of the opinion that zeroing out a bill is, indeed, in all likelihood, probably leaving some $$ on the table, but I'll not challenge that some may have inferred such a statement from my spoor - as in "...zeroing out an electric bill may not be the most cost effective option...". I do recall writing that on several occasions.

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  • Alisobob
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    Thanks JPM...

    I want to make somethings very clear... if and when I say "My system is ahead of the PV Watts forcast", remember two things.

    1. Weather is fickle. California was way behind in annual rainfall. Thats means more sunny days than usual are occurring . It would be expected to be ahead of the PV Watts numbers right now, only to fall behind if and when the rains do return.

    2. As JPM stated, the closer you come to zeroing out your bill, the closer you come to leaving money on the table. I wanted to come close to zeroing out my current bill, as a EV may be in my future, or maybe a pool. I wanted a little "reserve", just in case. For many, just removing the Tier 2,3, and 4 charges will make more economic sense. Everyone do your own homework, and no peeking.

    I expect to have solar success's, as well as solar failures. Its all here for everyone to see. I'm trying to keep it fun and interesting so folks will stop in from time to time.... with the goal of them learning something along the way.

    Bob

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  • J.P.M.
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    Originally posted by Alisobob
    .... thats what I kinda' thought... and for what its worth, I'm still a noob.

    In a few days my March SCE bill will be posted. Big news related to my switch from Domestic to TOU billing.

    Stay tuned..... or dont.

    Thanks J.P.M.


    Bob
    You're welcome.

    Giving this some further thought:

    - Saying (writing) that I don't usually bother with the 1X/month updates is not the same as saying I find them irksome. That's why I added the clarifier about adding some perspective.

    - I usually stay out of threads that don't interest me, or where I feel I have nothing of value to add, or would only exhibit ignorance.

    - The perspective part usually involves a comment I may have to the usual or often made statement about beating PVWatts by a large amount, or beating the vendor's estimate, or a less than zero electric bill.

    - FWIW, I wonder how many folks see those conditions as a possible result of vendors taking advantage of customer's ignorance to underestimate performance estimates prior to sale. Consistently beating estimates, and/or beating them by a large measure to me means there is something consistently wrong with the estimate. In those cases, I follow the money, and in most cases oversized systems waste it (money). "Newbies" may appreciate that perspective - or not - their choice., but I fail to see how such information will hurt more than help.

    - As for beating PVWatts, my comments MAY serve as sort of a heads' up to "newbies" to not only be aware of PVWatts as a tool and use it as such, but BEWARE that it still, usually and often underestimates system performance.

    - As for the usual glee that a bill is zeroed out - great feeling - enjoy. But just a reminder, oversized systems are often and usually less than optimally cost effective.

    What I forgot to remember was that something I often add to my posts applies to me as well:

    Take what you want/need of the above. Scrap the rest.

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  • Alisobob
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    Originally posted by skoolpsyk
    it might irk some of the veterans but to us newbies the more info the better!
    .... thats what I kinda' thought... and for what its worth, I'm still a noob.

    In a few days my March SCE bill will be posted. Big news related to my switch from Domestic to TOU billing.

    Stay tuned..... or dont.

    Thanks J.P.M.


    Bob

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  • skoolpsyk
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    Originally posted by Alisobob
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    March kicked ass! Thank you Sun!!

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    hey, some of us wouldn't mind some drought quenching rain! more sun isn't always a good thing!



    and keep the updates coming; it might irk some of the veterans but to us newbies the more info the better!

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  • J.P.M.
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    Originally posted by Alisobob
    Anyone who is bored with my little updates is more than welcome to never return or comment again.

    I would hate to feel , that I ruined the inna' net for you.
    Understood. I forgot that works in both directions. Won't happen again.

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  • Alisobob
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    Anyone who is bored with my little updates is more than welcome to never return or comment again.

    I would hate to feel , that I ruined the inna' net for you.

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  • J.P.M.
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    Originally posted by sensij
    and, to some extent, f(temp).
    Agreed. And lots of other things. That's why I usually don't bother with these 1X/month updates and "wow" factor items except to perhaps add some perspective.

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  • sensij
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    and, to some extent, f(temp).
    Last edited by sensij; 04-02-2015, 01:59 AM. Reason: I should have kept my vow to stay away from this thread. Not a good place for pursuit of knowledge.

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  • J.P.M.
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    Originally posted by Alisobob
    My "Peak Power" in Jan was 4.18 KW's. In Feb is was 5.29 Kw's. In March is was 5.33... hopefully it will creep up some more.
    It will increase/decrease as f(declination angle).

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