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  • Alisobob
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    Originally posted by OftheSeven
    If we use kitchen appliances around 5-6PM and turn on the air around 5PM on hot days, would TOU-D-A still be a better choice?
    Thats my situation... from about 4pm on, on weekdays... I'm a consumer, not a generator..at Peak rates.. under the TOU-D-A plan.

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  • Alisobob
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    Originally posted by sensij
    TOU-D-A tends to outperform because it pays so much more for generation from 8am - 2pm, when most people have very little load.
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    Yea, but dont forget I live near the beach.. and there are days where you dont see the sun until after noon. I'm still on the fence regarding which TOU plan would be best for me.

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  • sensij
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    Originally posted by josefontao
    Is netmetering allowed with any TOU plan?
    Yes, net metering is allowed for any plan you would otherwise be eligible for. That protection was provided by AB327.

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  • gvl
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    Btw, TOU-D-A/B is limited to 200,000 enrollments. I don't think they will run out soon, but it is something those with EVs and solar or thinking should keep in mind.

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  • josefontao
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    Is netmetering allowed with any TOU plan?

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  • silversaver
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    My solar array facing SW245, so TOU-D-A is the best choice especially all my load were after 6pm. I got whole day production to cover 6 to 8pm peak and 8 to 10pm off peak usage (4 hours). All night long of super off peak from 10pm to 8am. Why not?

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  • sensij
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    Originally posted by josefontao
    I thought on peak starred at 2pm and ends at 8pm
    TOU-D-T is still 12-6, although it won't be around for long. TOU-D-A tends to outperform because it pays so much more for generation from 8am - 2pm, when most people have very little load.

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  • josefontao
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    Originally posted by Alisobob
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    In a 12 hour solar "day"... I produce all 12 hours... but more generation occur's in the "peak" 6 hour period than the "off peak" 6 hour period due to "noon" being shifted later in the day.
    I thought on peak starred at 2pm and ends at 8pm

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  • gvl
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    Originally posted by OftheSeven
    I have a PHEV and BEV (7kWh and 24kWh) and waiting to see what my first month on net metering will show; currently on tiered SCE rate. If we use kitchen appliances around 5-6PM and turn on the air around 5PM on hot days, would TOU-D-A still be a better choice? Or is that assertion strictly for production during the day to receive the highest credit rate?
    It is difficult to make a recommendation without having a complete picture of hourly usage for the last 12 months and hourly estimates for solar generation of your system which you can get from PVWatts. All I know that those with EVs and solar can generally eliminate their monthly bill with about 80-90% annual solar production offset vs. usage on TOU-D-A. You'd need to have at least 100% annual offset to eliminate your bill on the tiered plan, if that is already the case (100% offset) there is no need for TOU for you. If not and your solar is South or South-West facing with little shading in the afternoon, and you charge your cars primarily at night, there is a very good chance you'll benefit from TOU-D-A.

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  • josefontao
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    Originally posted by OftheSeven
    I have a PHEV and BEV (7kWh and 24kWh) and waiting to see what my first month on net metering will show; currently on tiered SCE rate. If we use kitchen appliances around 5-6PM and turn on the air around 5PM on hot days, would TOU-D-A still be a better choice? Or is that assertion strictly for production during the day to receive the highest credit rate?
    TOU will almost certainly be better for you, probably TOU-D-A

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  • sensij
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    Originally posted by OftheSeven
    I have a PHEV and BEV (7kWh and 24kWh) and waiting to see what my first month on net metering will show; currently on tiered SCE rate. If we use kitchen appliances around 5-6PM and turn on the air around 5PM on hot days, would TOU-D-A still be a better choice? Or is that assertion strictly for production during the day to receive the highest credit rate?
    TOU-D-A is probably still better.

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  • Alisobob
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    Originally posted by josefontao
    Hey Bob,
    If you look at your emphase output on a recent sunny day, how much percentage would you say you make On-Peak vs. Off-Peak?
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    In a 12 hour solar "day"... I produce all 12 hours... but more generation occur's in the "peak" 6 hour period than the "off peak" 6 hour period due to "noon" being shifted later in the day.

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  • OftheSeven
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    Originally posted by gvl
    Also for someone with an EV TOU-D-A is likely a better choice.
    I have a PHEV and BEV (7kWh and 24kWh) and waiting to see what my first month on net metering will show; currently on tiered SCE rate. If we use kitchen appliances around 5-6PM and turn on the air around 5PM on hot days, would TOU-D-A still be a better choice? Or is that assertion strictly for production during the day to receive the highest credit rate?

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  • gvl
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    Also for someone with an EV TOU-D-A is likely a better choice.

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  • silversaver
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    TOU-D-T is good but it only offers you 12 to 6 at peak rate credit. Rest of the production is 1 to 1 during any other hours. Your Summer over generation is very unlikely to get you to level 2 (130% of baseline. Maybe during June or Sept) But you can turn on your AC more as long as not between 12 to 6.

    TOU-D-A Peak at 2 to 8 which still good for Summer, but any other time still higher than 10pm to 8am super off peak. My AC is turn on mostly after 6pm and majority during night time, so I figure the TOU-D-A might works better for me.


    Both TOU plans can saving your more credit regardless depends on which plan is better for you. I just don't like TOU-D-T the 130% baseline increase to level 2, which that happen to me during Summer and Winter. It will cost more$$$ per kWh banked.


    Here is an example of bank -24kWh but getting -$92 credit:



    Study your usage and set your plan

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