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  • mbrick
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 5

    #1

    AFCI disturbance error and troubleshooting

    Hello,

    I have a system with 30 BP 2150S monocrystalline 150w panels, set up in 3 strings of 10. System is 11 years old, located in the desert.
    Recently had a new inverter installed because the old one failed. SMA SB5000US-12.

    The inverter ran for 1 day after inverter installation then failed with 'AFCI disturbance' error. Apparently this means it detects arcing somewhere in the system?

    I started troubleshooting by connecting 1 string at a time until it failed. Then when I found the bad string (#3) and checked the Voc and Isc of each panel. I found one that had visually the worst corrosion and removed it from the string. It measured fine however.

    System ran for a few more days and then came back with the error. So I removed that string #3 entirely. It ran a few more days and failed again.

    I have checked the Voc and Isc of every panel and they are close to the spec. Say 39-41v instead of 42.8 in direct sunlight.
    I also checked all wiring from the installer at the disconnect box, inverter, and junction boxes on the roof and found nothing loose.

    -8 panels have visible corrosion on the terminal looking at the front side, where it passes through to the diodes on the back side. They measured Voc and Isc fine however. I am in process of trying to warranty replace them with BP.
    -I had 3 panels warrantied 2 years ago that failed for this same issue. (Corroded and then glass shattered starting at the terminal)
    -I suspect all panels will eventually fail due to this problem based on what I am seeing.
    -If there is arcing, likely it has existed for some time and I only know now because the new inverter detects it?
    -Not sure if the corrosion I see is the problem or not.

    What am I missing?? How else can I try and find what is causing the AFCI fault?

    Thanks!
  • Mike90250
    Moderator
    • May 2009
    • 16020

    #2
    Does your AFCI function on the AC side, or DC side ?
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    • mbrick
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 5

      #3
      Originally posted by Mike90250
      Does your AFCI function on the AC side, or DC side ?
      Never thought about AC side. From all the information I have read, it appears to be DC arc-fault circuit protection. Purely for fire protection on the DC side.

      See here:

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      • Sunking
        Solar Fanatic
        • Feb 2010
        • 23301

        #4
        The corrosion has to be removed and cleaned up.
        MSEE, PE

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        • mbrick
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 5

          #5
          Originally posted by Sunking
          The corrosion has to be removed and cleaned up.
          I may not have explained well. The corrosion is on the panel, below the glass.

          So to remove it I have to replace the panels, which I am in the process of trying to do with BP.

          Pretty high likelihood this is causing the AFCI error?

          Here is a photo I found of similar failures on a BP panel, except this is a polycrystalline, and not quite as obvious/bad as my panels. It is in this location under the glass.

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