Anyone have a SolarEdge StorEdge battery interface installed?

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  • Ampster
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    Originally posted by RShackleford
    So, no answer to the OP's question ?
    The OPs question was, "Has anyone here gone from a plain old SE7600A system to a StorEdge with battery?"
    So far I have not seen an example on this forum. There is now the promise of an upgrade in the US to convert a grid tie SolarEdge inverter to have the capability of a StorEdge inverter. That upgrade is available elsewhere but not yet in the US.
    As to the second part of the question, so far the only battery that currently works with the Storedge is the high voltage LG Chem battery. SolarEdge is reportedly coming out with a battery of their own.
    By way of background, the original Tesla Powerwall 1 also worked but I don't know if many were installed. Tesla quickly redesigned the Powerwall to be AC coupled (Powerwall 2). That version has sold over 50,000 units and works with almost any grid tie inverter manufactured in the last few years.
    Last edited by Ampster; 10-04-2019, 06:37 AM.

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  • J.P.M.
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    Originally posted by RShackleford
    So, no answer to the OP's question ?
    After 2 1/2 years, the answer is probably yes by now.

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  • RShackleford
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    So, no answer to the OP's question ?

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  • J.P.M.
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    Originally posted by SunEagle

    Seems to me that the basic rate for Green Mountain residential is less than $0.15/kWh. While I thought the lower rates for most CA POCO's was in the low $0.20/kWh. I am not sure if that is true but I doubt the powerwall has a quick payback in Vermont.

    Even as an emergency power backup I don't believe the cost of a battery is cheaper then the cost of an emergency generator for power outages.
    The big CA POCO's are around $0.20/kW and up to 2X that depending on tariff/tier/T.O.E. Smaller co-ops can be less, but $0.15/kWh ain't that common.

    Part of the deal w/mini site storage, similar to residential PV generation, is that without some intelligent way to figure/guesstimate some long term cost/kWh of non POCO means of storing power, such as LCOE analysis, talking about cost effectiveness is all just jaw jacking anyway.

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  • SunEagle
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    Originally posted by sensij

    Electricity in New England is generally more expensive on average than in CA.
    Seems to me that the basic rate for Green Mountain residential is less than $0.15/kWh. While I thought the lower rates for most CA POCO's was in the low $0.20/kWh. I am not sure if that is true but I doubt the powerwall has a quick payback in Vermont.

    Even as an emergency power backup I don't believe the cost of a battery is cheaper then the cost of an emergency generator for power outages.

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  • DanKegel
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    greenmountainpower.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Rate-1-Residential-Service-10.1.16-1.pdf says $0.43/day plus $0.15/kWh

    But the pilot customer said he has lots of outages out where he is in the sticks, maybe that makes it attractive.

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  • sensij
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    Originally posted by SunEagle
    ...since the electric rates are not as high as places like CA and HI.
    Electricity in New England is generally more expensive on average than in CA.

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  • SunEagle
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    Originally posted by DanKegel

    Sounds like Green Mountain Power in Vermont. Incidentally,
    I just now looked for installation stories that weren't just
    a press release or news story. It took a while, but the query
    powerwall installed solaredge forums.tesla.com
    finally dredged one up... from the *third* installation in Vermont
    Evidently Green Mountain called him at random and
    offered to include him in their pilot, perhaps because
    he's out in the sticks and has lots of outages (he doesn't
    have solar, too much shade):
    bryanalexander.org/2016/07/23/powerwall-progress/
    He said it kept his water pump, refrigerator, several lights, and
    both routers running during a 16 hour outage. But it doesn't
    really count, as it was part of the pilot, and it wasn't an upgrade.

    So, early days yet. Still waiting to hear about someone who's
    actually upgraded a solaredge to add a battery.
    I knew it was somewhere in New England. I just could not remember which POCO and which state exactly. Thanks for the correction.

    I know that Tesla was using that area as a test bed for their Powerwall but I have no idea how well they work there or if they are financially a good decision since the electric rates are not as high as places like CA and HI.

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  • DanKegel
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    Originally posted by SunEagle
    I believe one of the New Hampshire POCO's have set up a plan where a version of the Powerwall can be installed and linked with a home PV system. Maybe someone up in that area can provide feedback on how their system is performing.
    Sounds like Green Mountain Power in Vermont. Incidentally,
    I just now looked for installation stories that weren't just
    a press release or news story. It took a while, but the query
    powerwall installed solaredge forums.tesla.com
    finally dredged one up... from the *third* installation in Vermont
    Evidently Green Mountain called him at random and
    offered to include him in their pilot, perhaps because
    he's out in the sticks and has lots of outages (he doesn't
    have solar, too much shade):
    bryanalexander.org/2016/07/23/powerwall-progress/
    He said it kept his water pump, refrigerator, several lights, and
    both routers running during a 16 hour outage. But it doesn't
    really count, as it was part of the pilot, and it wasn't an upgrade.

    So, early days yet. Still waiting to hear about someone who's
    actually upgraded a solaredge to add a battery.

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  • ButchDeal
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    Originally posted by DanKegel
    Gentlemen, this thread has gone way, way off topic. Can we restrict future replies to the original topic, i.e. whether anyone has upgraded a SolarEdge to add a battery? Thanks.
    We have several storedge inverters installed but none with a battery.

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  • SunEagle
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    Originally posted by solarix
    I'd really like to see an answer to this question as well. I have lots of customers interested in a storage capability, but I generally put them off saying the Powerwall and Storedge have not proven themselves yet. I'm pretty skeptical they ever will, but would like to hear about anyone who has actually tried them....
    I believe one of the New Hampshire POCO's have set up a plan where a version of the Powerwall can be installed and linked with a home PV system. Maybe someone up in that area can provide feedback on how their system is performing.

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  • J.P.M.
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    Originally posted by DanKegel

    Uh, no, I wanted to find out if anyone has upgraded their SE7600A to add storage yet. When I got my system, I specifically asked my installer for the SE7600A because it was said to be the model that was compatible with batteries, and now that SGIP is opening up again, it seemed time to look into what that would take.
    Solarix, Sensij, and ButchDeal consider this a valid question, one that has come up before.

    Sunking and JPM, on the other hand, seem to consider this innocent, useful question as something bad. It's like they're trying to create trouble where there is none.
    Since I'm about the laziest person on this planet and also suffer fools badly, and for a lot of other reasons, I don't try to start trouble, just call B.S. when I think I see it and believe it can start trouble. As for what others may or may not think of the validity of your stuff, I don't believe I have your rude habit, and disrespectful behavior of presumptively doing others thinking for them as exhibited here and as you've done to me more than a few times.

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  • DanKegel
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    Originally posted by Sunking
    He is doing what he always does. Wants to start trouble.
    Uh, no, I wanted to find out if anyone has upgraded their SE7600A to add storage yet. When I got my system, I specifically asked my installer for the SE7600A because it was said to be the model that was compatible with batteries, and now that SGIP is opening up again, it seemed time to look into what that would take.
    Solarix, Sensij, and ButchDeal consider this a valid question, one that has come up before.

    Sunking and JPM, on the other hand, seem to consider this innocent, useful question as something bad. It's like they're trying to create trouble where there is none.

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  • J.P.M.
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    Originally posted by solarix
    I'd really like to see an answer to this question as well. I have lots of customers interested in a storage capability, but I generally put them off saying the Powerwall and Storedge have not proven themselves yet. I'm pretty skeptical they ever will, but would like to hear about anyone who has actually tried them....
    Me too. Particularly someone who doesn't work for the company selling the equipment and/or didn't get one for a price to sing the praises of the product. I'll also wait for 300-500 charge/discharge cycles and see what floats to the top.

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  • solarix
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    I'd really like to see an answer to this question as well. I have lots of customers interested in a storage capability, but I generally put them off saying the Powerwall and Storedge have not proven themselves yet. I'm pretty skeptical they ever will, but would like to hear about anyone who has actually tried them....

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