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  • ice2484
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 24

    #1

    Grid tie inverter how to control amps used on battery

    I am wanting to put grid tie inverter on battery power at night.
    How can i control the amps the power inverter uses?
  • SunEagle
    Super Moderator
    • Oct 2012
    • 15161

    #2
    Originally posted by ice2484
    I am wanting to put grid tie inverter on battery power at night.
    How can i control the amps the power inverter uses?
    Welcome to Solar Panel Talk

    I am not sure what you are looking for concerning a "grid tie" inverter that gets it's power from batteries.

    Most Hybrid solar battery grid tie systems have controls that monitor battery charging and usage and I believe can turn off loads but they are very expensive.

    The less expensive way to control the amount of amps the inverter draws from the battery is to use a "fixed amp" load and a timer that opens the circuit after the allotted hours I can run that load.

    If my total fixed load uses 3 amps and I can only use about 15Ah from my battery then I would have to turn off my load at or before 5 hours is up. Just remember that the inverter also uses the battery so you will use more than 15Ah in the 5 hours of run time so maybe run your load for 4.5 hours.

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    • Mike90250
      Moderator
      • May 2009
      • 16020

      #3
      String style inverters use 300-500VDC from the panels. Micro inverters need about 60V from panels.

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      • Sunking
        Solar Fanatic
        • Feb 2010
        • 23301

        #4
        Where do you live?

        In the USA power from the POCO on average cost 11.2-cents per Kwh. Power from batteries cost 50 to 60-cents per Kwh. So my question to you is : Why do you want to pay 4 to 6 times more from power from batteries rather than from the POCO?
        MSEE, PE

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        • russ
          Solar Fanatic
          • Jul 2009
          • 10360

          #5
          Biloxi, Miss - They do things different there?
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          • Sparkskard
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 12

            #6
            which inverter do you have or going get ..

            Some of the older SMA SB well allow you to set MPPT to a fix DC Value , when u should be able very the input to inverter, but this does may change the inverter to a true demand type inverter found on non-grid tie or micro grid tie ie paralleling inverter ,, tie them to grid .. ( with AC generators can be paralleled as the load demand ) this should the same with inverter if they were designed right ,, there to type MPPT (PV ) and demand inverter ( run off batt.) I have not seen one that well do both weel and easy .. OutBack have one that close for $4k for 8Kw unit..

            Make sparks fly ~~~



            Originally posted by ice2484
            I am wanting to put grid tie inverter on battery power at night.
            How can i control the amps the power inverter uses?

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            • Sparkskard
              Junior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 12

              #7
              how and where did you come with battery cost

              how, where did you come up with cost of Batteries ?? $.50 to $.60 per KWhr seam high .. I done the math,, but I think it should be lower .. How long are thinking Bat. well last , cost , etc.. ??

              Let the sparks fly ~~~~



              Originally posted by Sunking
              Where do you live?

              In the USA power from the POCO on average cost 11.2-cents per Kwh. Power from batteries cost 50 to 60-cents per Kwh. So my question to you is : Why do you want to pay 4 to 6 times more from power from batteries rather than from the POCO?

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              • russ
                Solar Fanatic
                • Jul 2009
                • 10360

                #8
                Originally posted by Sparkskard
                how, where did you come up with cost of Batteries ?? $.50 to $.60 per KWhr seam high .. I done the math,, but I think it should be lower .. How long are thinking Bat. well last , cost , etc.. ??

                Let the sparks fly ~~~~
                You state your assumptions first.
                [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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