Hi from Davao, Philippines, A newby! arrives!

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I am talking with a solar PV provider in Manila, and he confirms there is no electric company in PHilippines that will let you Grid Tie. That means NO net metering, etc. I would have to go off grid, if I wanted to do Solar PV.

hello araibob, like you i also find the electric bills here in davao ridiculous, half of the bill is goes to charges that we do not even know where they got it...my monthly bill is at php 20,000, but the generation charges is only php 12,000. so you have php 8,000 that goes to those extra charges. since as sunking and the other guys says its foolish to place it within the grid because unlike the states where they pay you back, here you would be giving it for free..and that sucks a lot. i was thinking of getting off the grid, switching the power to pvs and if possible wind turbines in the day, and maybe switching on the grid at night, please do let me know if this is more sensible and practical....and where you able to install the pvs here in davao? if so...where can i get it? i really am hyped up to install this....i am already sick and tired paying this yahoos in our electric company too much money when in fact we get most of our power from hydro and steam.

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price to install PV plus batteries is too expensive

hello araibob, like you i also find the electric bills here in davao ridiculous, half of the bill is goes to charges that we do not even know where they got it...my monthly bill is at php 20,000, but the generation charges is only php 12,000. so you have php 8,000 that goes to those extra charges. since as sunking and the other guys says its foolish to place it within the grid because unlike the states where they pay you back, here you would be giving it for free..and that sucks a lot. i was thinking of getting off the grid, switching the power to pvs and if possible wind turbines in the day, and maybe switching on the grid at night, please do let me know if this is more sensible and practical....and where you able to install the pvs here in davao? if so...where can i get it? i really am hyped up to install this....i am already sick and tired paying this yahoos in our electric company too much money when in fact we get most of our power from hydro and steam.

I got a few estimates, without a detailed list of parts etc. I estimated I needed 12 KW, cost was about 3 million pesos. It would take many years before I saw a 'break even' on this price. I saw newspaper articles in which the PH congress is discussing the grid tie option, again. So, the topic is on their minds, but we cannot know when anything productive might come.

However, I believe that 'market' forces will make them come to some sensible conclusions within a few years. Therefor I will wait. If they do it right, the cost will come down (a lot), and the electric companies will make the process easy. The above cost included batteries. I would love to avoid batteries. I don't see anything good from having a hundred batteries in a hut. [I don't know exactly how many batteries, just guessing].

Best Regards, Practicing Patience in Philippines