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  • JoeWood
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 5

    #1

    Solar Patio Covers, Looking For a Partner!

    Greetings all!

    I’m a San Diego area General Contractor who specializes in Design – Build of fine custom outdoor structures.

    I’m very interested in designing and building solar patio covers and have decided I need a Partner, to handle the marketing and sales, to really make it happen. You need to be based in San Diego County, and would also handle the Solar and electrical design and installation.

    I’ve been working at it but so far I haven’t had one Project, yet. A month ago contacted over 50 local solar companies by email. 8 or 10 have responded back with interest saying what a great idea, but no leads from any of them yet.

    Here’s my main Solar Page where I show some generic designs and ideas. I made this page before I really knew much about the actual Solar components.


    I would design and build the structure and you would handle the solar and electrical. I do some very nice Design and even better Build! I can also make Permit Plans for my structures.

    I've designed and made Plans for my first real Solar Patio Cover, designed for
    the actual solar panel dimensions and using aluminum solar tracks / rails.

    Scroll down on left to see the Plans. This is for a local client in Vista so hopefully I’ll be building this too

    Please send me a PM if you’re interested and we'll talk!

    Joe Wood

    Solar-Patio-Cover.jpg
    Last edited by Naptown; 04-15-2013, 07:12 PM.
  • Naptown
    Solar Fanatic
    • Feb 2011
    • 6880

    #2
    Good luck if any portion of the PV is below 8' from the ground. It will also have to be gravel or concrete under it. If it is a parking structure I believe it will have to have a solid roof below the panels. Per NFPA1-2012
    NABCEP certified Technical Sales Professional

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    • JoeWood
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 5

      #3
      Concrete or gravel needs to be under a solar patio cover? They need class A surface then? There usually is concrete or some sort of hardscape but not always. Does this apply to Calif?

      Rich, where can I see these Regs, especially for my state?

      What happens to the structure if you're under that 8' rule?

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      • Sunking
        Solar Fanatic
        • Feb 2010
        • 23301

        #4
        Originally posted by JoeWood
        Rich, where can I see these Regs, especially for my state?
        If you are a licensed contractor you should know the answer to that. CA has Amendments that exceed National Standards. Those requirements will be listed in your county Building Code Departments you work in. All of them are on line.
        MSEE, PE

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        • joconno4
          Junior Member
          • May 2013
          • 2

          #5
          Solar Patio covers

          Hi Joe -
          I like your design. I have a start up solar panel company in Simi Valley, ca and
          I used to live in San Diego and would like to start installing our system
          in the North County area. Perhaps we can forge an alliance.
          Please email me at joconno4@yahoo.com
          thanks
          John


          Originally posted by JoeWood
          Greetings all!

          I’m a San Diego area General Contractor who specializes in Design – Build of fine custom outdoor structures.

          I’m very interested in designing and building solar patio covers and have decided I need a Partner, to handle the marketing and sales, to really make it happen. You need to be based in San Diego County, and would also handle the Solar and electrical design and installation.

          I’ve been working at it but so far I haven’t had one Project, yet. A month ago contacted over 50 local solar companies by email. 8 or 10 have responded back with interest saying what a great idea, but no leads from any of them yet.

          Here’s my main Solar Page where I show some generic designs and ideas. I made this page before I really knew much about the actual Solar components.


          I would design and build the structure and you would handle the solar and electrical. I do some very nice Design and even better Build! I can also make Permit Plans for my structures.

          I've designed and made Plans for my first real Solar Patio Cover, designed for
          the actual solar panel dimensions and using aluminum solar tracks / rails.

          Scroll down on left to see the Plans. This is for a local client in Vista so hopefully I’ll be building this too

          Please send me a PM if you’re interested and we'll talk!

          Joe Wood

          [ATTACH=CONFIG]2804[/ATTACH]

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          • cogsci
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2013
            • 3

            #6
            as someone who has been in the market for something like this, it is crazy that there are no good prefab options already out there.

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            • JoeWood
              Junior Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 5

              #7
              Yeah Cog, crazy, I agree, and that's the reason I'm trying to get this going. Seems like there would be a nice market for solar patio covers, both prefab, and what I'm hoping for, custom ones

              even crazier is that no one has contacted me about this, about partnering with me!

              my first customer for a solar design and plans, just recently pulled the permit and I've given a price to build it. Keeping my fingers crossed I made up two 3' x 2' plans pages, here's page 1.

              My customer said-
              Joe,
              I finally got the chance to take the plans by the County for the official permit request. It took over 6 hours but I was able to get the permit. I will tell you that the inspector doing the structural review was very impressed with your drawings and detail.

              Naptown, the San Diego Bldg Dept didn't say anything about an 8' rule, maybe that's true in your location? You had me worried there for awhile.
              Attached Files

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              • Naptown
                Solar Fanatic
                • Feb 2011
                • 6880

                #8
                That doesn't fall under the building code.
                Next up is electrical where that matters
                NABCEP certified Technical Sales Professional

                [URL="http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showthread.php?5334-Solar-Off-Grid-Battery-Design"]http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showth...Battery-Design[/URL]

                [URL]http://www.calculator.net/voltage-drop-calculator.html[/URL] (Voltage drop Calculator among others)

                [URL="http://www.gaisma.com"]www.gaisma.com[/URL]

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                • JoeWood
                  Junior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 5

                  #9
                  What is the 8' rule you mentioned Rich? For the solar/ electrical part? It got approved is what matters and we have pretty strict codes down here.

                  sorry, I don't understand "Next up is electrical where that matters"

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                  • Naptown
                    Solar Fanatic
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 6880

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JoeWood
                    What is the 8' rule you mentioned Rich? For the solar/ electrical part? It got approved is what matters and we have pretty strict codes down here.

                    sorry, I don't understand "Next up is electrical where that matters"
                    Correct it is for the electrical part.
                    Next up refers to getting the electrical permit.
                    That is where the 8' rule will come into play.
                    If they are enforcing NFPA1-2012 there will be other issues like a non flammable ground cover extending out 10' around the array etc.
                    But a bigger question is you are in California. Why is the owner getting the permit? That throws all responsibility for design and construction on them and If I remember correctly you could have your license if you have one pulled.
                    NABCEP certified Technical Sales Professional

                    [URL="http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showthread.php?5334-Solar-Off-Grid-Battery-Design"]http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showth...Battery-Design[/URL]

                    [URL]http://www.calculator.net/voltage-drop-calculator.html[/URL] (Voltage drop Calculator among others)

                    [URL="http://www.gaisma.com"]www.gaisma.com[/URL]

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                    • Naptown
                      Solar Fanatic
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 6880

                      #11
                      Originally posted by cogsci
                      as someone who has been in the market for something like this, it is crazy that there are no good prefab options already out there.
                      There are
                      Schletter makes a number of them and there are other manufacturers also
                      NABCEP certified Technical Sales Professional

                      [URL="http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showthread.php?5334-Solar-Off-Grid-Battery-Design"]http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showth...Battery-Design[/URL]

                      [URL]http://www.calculator.net/voltage-drop-calculator.html[/URL] (Voltage drop Calculator among others)

                      [URL="http://www.gaisma.com"]www.gaisma.com[/URL]

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                      • cogsci
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 3

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Naptown
                        There are
                        Schletter makes a number of them and there are other manufacturers also
                        Schletter looks interesting, I've since found Phat makes them as well. Are there any others that you can think of?

                        Thanks!

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                        • cogsci
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 3

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Naptown
                          There are
                          Schletter makes a number of them and there are other manufacturers also
                          Schletter looks interesting, There systems are often cantilevered and built in ways that may be attractive (depending on taste), but it would seem to me that something that had a basic structure like a simple 4 post barn, would be much cheaper/easier to construct and install.

                          I've since found Phat makes them as well. Are there any others that you can think of?

                          Thanks!

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                          • SunEagle
                            Super Moderator
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 15161

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Naptown
                            Correct it is for the electrical part.
                            Next up refers to getting the electrical permit.
                            That is where the 8' rule will come into play.
                            If they are enforcing NFPA1-2012 there will be other issues like a non flammable ground cover extending out 10' around the array etc.
                            But a bigger question is you are in California. Why is the owner getting the permit? That throws all responsibility for design and construction on them and If I remember correctly you could have your license if you have one pulled.
                            I don't currently own a copy of the NFPA1-2012 code. Why is there an 8' rule required for a solar pv system mounted on a patio cover as opposed to a pole or ground mounted system? Does it have to do with proximity of people?

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                            • inetdog
                              Super Moderator
                              • May 2012
                              • 9909

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SunEagle
                              I don't currently own a copy of the NFPA1-2012 code. Why is there an 8' rule required for a solar pv system mounted on a patio cover as opposed to a pole or ground mounted system? Does it have to do with proximity of people?
                              Yes. The panels themselves and the DC or AC wiring needs to be out of reach. You can mount them lower only if you fence off the area and keep people out. This would be problem for a patio.
                              I suppose you could just enclose all of the wiring, but the inspector may not approve that.
                              SunnyBoy 3000 US, 18 BP Solar 175B panels.

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