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  • Saggys
    Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 63

    #1

    Battery and inverter matching.

    A 420 amp hour battery bank that is lead acid at a C/8 discharge rate into a 24 volt inverter tells me I can only power a 1260 watt inverter at a continuous output. I know that is not typical but what is the rule for matching a battery bank to an inverter?
  • Sunking
    Solar Fanatic
    • Feb 2010
    • 23301

    #2
    No real rule. Depends on battery type. There are some AGM batteries that can deliver 1C or greater discharge. Problem is the battery is done in 20 minutes or less. Batteries are sized to deliver 20% of their charge in a 24 hour period, then immediately recharged. So if done like that the inverter battery size ratio is not an issue. That 420 AH 24 volt can deliver up to 2 Kwh/ day. If th eload is constant for a 24 hour period, the load is 2000 wh / 24 h = 83 watts or a 100 watt inverter. No problem.
    MSEE, PE

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    • Mike90250
      Moderator
      • May 2009
      • 16020

      #3
      Originally posted by Saggys
      ...what is the rule for matching a battery bank to an inverter?
      Large inverters need a large battery bank, for 2 reasons,

      prevent voltage droop under load
      buffer AC ripple induced on battery from inverter (while the inverter is creating the sine wave)

      Larger inverters usually have this spec in their data sheet.
      Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
      || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
      || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

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      • SunEagle
        Super Moderator
        • Oct 2012
        • 15161

        #4
        Originally posted by Mike90250
        Large inverters need a large battery bank, for 2 reasons,

        prevent voltage droop under load
        buffer AC ripple induced on battery from inverter (while the inverter is creating the sine wave)

        Larger inverters usually have this spec in their data sheet.
        I understand that the larger the inverter the more non load losses occur. Is the function of buffering the AC ripple the reason for the higher loss or is it other circuitry in the inverter that consumes?

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        • Saggys
          Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 63

          #5
          Thanks guys, I wasn't sure if it was crtical or not. A 2,400 watt 24volt inverter should be fine with a 420 amp hour battery bank.

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          • Mike90250
            Moderator
            • May 2009
            • 16020

            #6
            Originally posted by SunEagle
            I understand that the larger the inverter the more non load losses occur. Is the function of buffering the AC ripple the reason for the higher loss or is it other circuitry in the inverter that consumes?
            Not always true, my standby losses in my 6KW inverter, is 28 watts. here's the chart from the manual.

            Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
            || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
            || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

            solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
            gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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