Mixed Voltage Panels

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  • Rigelation
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2013
    • 4

    #1

    Mixed Voltage Panels

    Hi folks! My father and I built an off-grid system for his home back around 2015. We use 8 6V golf cart batteries and have 14 200-ish Watt, 24V panels, and an Outback inverter + charger. Recently, we decided that we could use more charging power, especially in the less sunny months. We bought three "48V", 400W panels from some solar warehouse in the Bay Area. I say 48V in quotes because only much later did we realize that they are actually rated for 47.5V output, rather than the higher output that I think is more standard (something more like 70V or more, intended for charging a 48V system). Is there a good circuit that we can build or buy to, say, put all 3 of the new panels in series for ~144V, then reduce the voltage to match the other panels without too much power loss? Apologies if there is a previous post that got to this, I did a bit of searching and couldn't find anything.
  • Mike90250
    Moderator
    • May 2009
    • 16020

    #2
    Midnight Solar has a 200V and a 250V model of their Classic MPPT controller. A MPPT controller will downconvert the high panel voltage to the battery charging voltage.

    A less expensive way, is to use a "normal" 150VDC charge controller , and wire the 3 panels in parallel, for 47.5V @ 25A You will also need a combiner box for 3 solar strings
    to safely combine the panels


    400w x 3 @ 47.5V = 25A from the 3 panels in parallel. After down conversion to battery charging voltage of 28V, you would be adding about 42 charging amps to your system.
    Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

    solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
    gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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    • Rigelation
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2013
      • 4

      #3
      Thanks for the reply, Mike! Thanks to your answer, I am now starting to see that MPPT charge controllers (well PWM I guess too?) can be strung together, but some care needs to be given so that they don't try to equalize the batteries at different times, and maybe some other things. I had imagined that you couldn't combine charge controllers, because once one was applying a voltage to charge the batteries, how would another know what the state of the batteries was? But maybe it's something about current that the batteries will accept at a given voltage? Anyway, I look forward to learning more about this now that I know what to look into!

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      • Mike90250
        Moderator
        • May 2009
        • 16020

        #4
        Each charge controller ( PWM & MPPT ) need their own solar array. But several charge controllers, adjusted to the proper voltages, can charge a battery bank at the same time
        Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
        || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
        || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

        solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
        gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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        • chrisski
          Solar Fanatic
          • May 2020
          • 571

          #5
          With proper voltages you could even mix PWM and MPPT controllers.

          For my RV, I use three different VIctron SCCs for three different arrays feeding the same battery bank. The VIctrons are set to the same absorption an float voltages. They even have a virtual network and work together. Documentation is a bit lacking on what this virtual network actually does but I did find out that if the charge profiles are not the same for the three SCCs, you get a warning, if I set one to equalize all three will equalize and the same when I turn equalize off, and build, absorption, and float is entered at the same time.

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