Is my MPPT CC killing my 12V AGM battery at 16V?

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  • PNPmacnab
    Solar Fanatic
    • Nov 2016
    • 425

    #16
    Really appreciate those pictures. I've wondered what those controllers had inside.

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    • Mike90250
      Moderator
      • May 2009
      • 16020

      #17
      Well, it looks like it's a legit MPPT controller. I guess you have to report back to us, as to how well it works

      Edit - the EPSolar Tracer 2215bn spec looks like it might be MPPT. the only pics I've seen were of the Bogus controller
      Last edited by Mike90250; 11-21-2016, 11:57 PM.
      Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
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      || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

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      • PNPmacnab
        Solar Fanatic
        • Nov 2016
        • 425

        #18
        I fail to see anything in this that would make this a MPPT controller except in wind turbine use. I do like the external current carrying bars to the FETs rather than relying on copper foil with built up solder. Great picture quality. I appreciate those who can take a good photo. I do think the controller is somehow to blame.

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        • inetdog
          Super Moderator
          • May 2012
          • 9909

          #19
          Originally posted by Mike90250
          Well, it looks like it's a legit MPPT controller. I guess you have to report back to us, as to how well it works
          Is this based on direct manufacturer information?
          Or the posted specs?:
          "Then I took a look at the specs of the Controller:
          Maximum Power Current: 30A
          System Load loss: < 13mA
          Loop Buck: < 100mV
          Battery Float Voltage: 13.8V
          Discharge Stop: 10.6V
          Discharge Resume: 12.6V
          Temperature compensation: -4mV/Cell/˚C
          Solar panels maximum open circuit voltage: < 48V
          Peak power of solar panel: 380W"
          The 48V input and up to 380W panel power with 30A nominal 12 output are all consistent enough, but unless they use a really high frequency and some of what appear to be resistors are really inductors, I just do not see support for that in the photo. Of course we can't see what is between the circuit board and the heat sink either....


          SunnyBoy 3000 US, 18 BP Solar 175B panels.

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          • Mike90250
            Mike90250 commented
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            Edit - the EPSolar Tracer 2215bn spec looks like it might be MPPT. the only pics I've seen were of the Bogus controller
        • boatmaster
          Junior Member
          • Nov 2016
          • 7

          #20
          Originally posted by inetdog
          Of course we can't see what is between the circuit board and the heat sink either....
          Well, now we can, since I took a little further apart:

          1.JPG

          2.JPG


          @Mike90250: I havn't received the EPSolar Tracer 2215bn yet, but will post the "insights" asap.

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          • PNPmacnab
            Solar Fanatic
            • Nov 2016
            • 425

            #21
            Need I say more, I'll leave that to others. Firm believer in they always shoot the messenger.

            I'd love one that is damaged and out of warranty.
            Last edited by PNPmacnab; 11-22-2016, 10:02 AM.

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            • boatmaster
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2016
              • 7

              #22
              I just got the 2215BN today and it totally solves my problem. It might be one or two sizes to big for my setup, but this way i can put up another 13 panels when I need more power down the stream. For those who are interested in what it looks like on the inside, I made some photos. It is actually a lot bigger and heavier (1.5kg), than I thought.


              2215BN-3.JPG

              2215BN-2.JPG

              2215BN-1.JPG

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              • inetdog
                Super Moderator
                • May 2012
                • 9909

                #23
                Interesting pictures, thank you.

                The contents of the black potting at the top of one photo appears, from surface irregularities, to be two toroidal coils, a good indicator of true MPPT.
                But the input side working range from 8-32V is hard to understand.
                It may be able to withstand an input Voc from panel string of 150V, but if the MPPT range peaks out at 32V it is not clear how useful the unit really is.
                I hope that that is just a misleading printed spec.
                SunnyBoy 3000 US, 18 BP Solar 175B panels.

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                • PNPmacnab
                  Solar Fanatic
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 425

                  #24
                  I think the 8-32 is the battery side limits. Below 8V (at night) there isn't enough voltage to run the internal electronics and above 32V from an external source like another controller could damage it..

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                  • inetdog
                    Super Moderator
                    • May 2012
                    • 9909

                    #25
                    Originally posted by PNPmacnab
                    I think the 8-32 is the battery side limits. Below 8V (at night) there isn't enough voltage to run the internal electronics and above 32V from an external source like another controller could damage it..
                    Probably, but the spec is found grouped with clear input specifications on the input side of the label, not the output side.
                    SunnyBoy 3000 US, 18 BP Solar 175B panels.

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