Off grid refrigerator

[ChrisOlson]

Most of the golf courses in Florida have a similar clothing rule. No cut-offs or jeans of any type and both men and women must wear shirts with sleeves. I can understand some dress codes but most take the "respectable" standard a little too far.

Yeah, we were there to have fun, not fit in with the yuppie crowd. If we were going to be forced to fit in with the yuppies, then that spoils our fun. So we left because we don't fit in with yuppies all that good. Really nice golf course there though.

[SunEagle]

Yeah, if you go to Aguirre and check with them guys, they probably got a good source to get golf cart batteries. We went there once and were going to play nine holes. My wife was wearing a tank top and jeans cut-off shorts and they told her she can't come on the golf course wearing that and had to change to something more "respectable". So we said to hell with it. But I seen they got lots of electric golf cars there so they have to get batteries for them from someplace.

Most of the golf courses in Florida have a similar clothing rule. No cut-offs or jeans of any type and both men and women must wear shirts with sleeves. I can understand some dress codes but most take the "respectable" standard a little too far.

[ChrisOlson]

You are probably right, I always forget location, location, location is a main factor

Yeah, if you go to Aguirre and check with them guys, they probably got a good source to get golf cart batteries. We went there once and were going to play nine holes. My wife was wearing a tank top and jeans cut-off shorts and they told her she can't come on the golf course wearing that and had to change to something more "respectable". So we said to hell with it. But I seen they got lots of electric golf cars there so they have to get batteries for them from someplace.

[AZlink]

It might be just me, but I'd stick with flooded lead-acid over AGM for off-grid power. And I'd go with L-16 type (floor maintenance machine) instead of golf cart. Although I realize that golf cart batteries will probably be easier to find (and cheaper) in Puerto Rico.

You are probably right, I always forget location, location, location is a main factor


Since car batteries are lead acid and I can always check the acid level I kind of thought the flooded type was the proper for me, but still speculations...... Thanks AZ

[ChrisOlson]

It might be just me, but I'd stick with flooded lead-acid over AGM for off-grid power. And I'd go with L-16 type (floor maintenance machine) instead of golf cart. Although I realize that golf cart batteries will probably be easier to find (and cheaper) in Puerto Rico.

[AZlink]

In that case, just make up your mind and get an off grid solar system. since you used to generator running, and not afraid to use it, just get a battery system that won't discharge more than 50% DOD daily.

My mind is made thanks for reminding me, I am still reading on batteries some say the AGM is the best others show a formula saying that flooded batteries are best, then found info of a battery design for thermo king trailers named workaholic, that can be used in solar applications, anyway I have to wait for the kit my uncle bought to then know wish batteries are best, according to a replay about the second kit someone said that solar panel works best with small batteries like the one used in golf carts, until one of those 2 kits arrived I can decide wish batteries to buy, trust me once the kit is here home I'll upload photos of it and the question on what batteries to get, just to be clear all the info from each and everyone of you it is very appreciated, the solar thing is new to me I am like a sponge getting all the info and opinions, thanks again to you all...........AZ

[paulcheung]

In that case, just make up your mind and get an off grid solar system. since you used to generator running, and not afraid to use it, just get a battery system that won't discharge more than 50% DOD daily.

[AZlink]

The increase may be due to hurricane Gonzalo being at your doorstep. Once the price goes up (for whatever the reason) chances are it won't go back down.

It also affect but not the case, on September the governor mentioned he was looking for a solution for the island's dead economy said as a last resort to apply a 4 cent tax to the fuel, but promised not the raise the electric price, the people told him not raising the electric price but applying a tax to the fuel is same as raising the electric price, to look for other alternatives and stop putting taxes to things that never had tax since the people's income are less then the life's price he has made us, but this day it came all clear he did both the fuel tax and higher electric bill. AZ

[SunEagle]

Hello guys, the news today very early in the morning the energy company announced the new price of the kW will be 32 cents he he he add the fuel wish the government mentioned they will be adding a 4 cents tax to each liter of fuel..oh my where and when this will end...............AZ

The increase may be due to hurricane Gonzalo being at your doorstep. Once the price goes up (for whatever the reason) chances are it won't go back down.

[AZlink]

Hello guys, the news today very early in the morning the energy company announced the new price of the kW will be 32 cents he he he add the fuel wish the government mentioned they will be adding a 4 cents tax to each liter of fuel..oh my where and when this will end...............AZ

[ChrisOlson]

Hmmm. Maybe Puerto Rico is a nice place to visit but not necessarily a great place to live if you require a quality power source.

The electrical system is only part of the problem in Puerto Rico. High crime - not usual to get carjacked at gunpoint right on mainstreet in broad daylight, and the police look the other way because they don't want to deal with it. All kinds of closed businesses and schools, prices for electricity and water, and taxes, very high. And the government is huge in the hole.

[SunEagle]

Yep. Same thing on the island of San Andres down by Panama. All the power on the island is fueled with HFO, and provided by 20 MW Colt-Pielstick 18 cylinder diesel generators. Power there is pretty expensive. On Puerto Rico two of the diesel plants are 20 MW Pielsticks, the rest are Fairbanks-Morse OP's that have been running on the island since WWII. Lots of 1.2 - 4.0 MW Cummins QSK standby generators on Puerto Rico - don't know the exact number but it's over 100 of 'em. And those Cummins generators on Puerto Rico get a lot of hours on them because the power goes out just about every day.

Basically, the whole island is pretty much off-grid with all kinds of backup systems scattered all over the place to keep things lit when the government-run POCO goes belly up.

Hmmm. Maybe Puerto Rico is a nice place to visit but not necessarily a great place to live if you require a quality power source.

[ChrisOlson]

I am also getting the feeling that in some countries, especially island type, the POCO costs are much higher than anywhere in the US including Hawaii. Combine that high price along with regular power outages sure makes a case for off grid system. Expensive yes but maybe less than using the POCO.

Yep. Same thing on the island of San Andres down by Panama. All the power on the island is fueled with HFO, and provided by 20 MW Colt-Pielstick 18 cylinder diesel generators. Power there is pretty expensive. On Puerto Rico two of the diesel plants are 20 MW Pielsticks, the rest are Fairbanks-Morse OP's that have been running on the island since WWII. Lots of 1.2 - 4.0 MW Cummins QSK standby generators on Puerto Rico - don't know the exact number but it's over 100 of 'em. And those Cummins generators on Puerto Rico get a lot of hours on them because the power goes out just about every day.

Basically, the whole island is pretty much off-grid with all kinds of backup systems scattered all over the place to keep things lit when the government-run POCO goes belly up.

[SunEagle]

Not in Puerto Rico. They have 20 or 21 hydro plants and a coal plant there. All the rest, including peaking generators, are HFO, either diesel or combined cycle gas turbine. They throw a fuel surcharge on the bill for the use of the diesel and combined cycle turbines running on HFO. We had a $1,100 electric bill for our yacht in a slip at Puerto del Rey there for only two weeks.

Off-grid is actually a very good option in Puerto Rico, and one that many people that can do it pursue.

I am also getting the feeling that in some countries, especially island type, the POCO costs are much higher than anywhere in the US including Hawaii. Combine that high price along with regular power outages sure makes a case for off grid system. Expensive yes but maybe less than using the POCO.

[ChrisOlson]

So why go off grid if you are trying to save money? Don't fool yourself, it is impossible for you to save money going off grid.

Not in Puerto Rico. They have 20 or 21 hydro plants and a coal plant there. All the rest, including peaking generators, are HFO, either diesel or combined cycle gas turbine. They throw a fuel surcharge on the bill for the use of the diesel and combined cycle turbines running on HFO. We had a $1,100 electric bill for our yacht in a slip at Puerto del Rey there for only two weeks.

Off-grid is actually a very good option in Puerto Rico, and one that many people that can do it pursue.