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  • dapago
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2015
    • 41

    #16
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    i have made a little diagram. Just need to know if that is correct and if each batts will be well balanced.
    cant afford to damage my batts or have unbalanced batts.
    Last edited by dapago; 10-23-2017, 09:39 PM.

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    • dapago
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2015
      • 41

      #17
      An other question. What Ah is needed for the busbar for my bank?

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      • Sunking
        Solar Fanatic
        • Feb 2010
        • 23301

        #18
        Originally posted by dapago
        Just need to know if that is correct and if each batts will be well balanced.
        cant afford to damage my batts or have unbalanced batts.
        Yes.

        MSEE, PE

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        • Sunking
          Solar Fanatic
          • Feb 2010
          • 23301

          #19
          Originally posted by dapago
          An other question. What Ah is needed for the busbar for my bank?
          Does not compute. Busbars are not rated in AH, the are rated in AMPS. The busbar current ratings (Amps) must be equal to or greater than the load imposed on it. If you have at least 1/8 inch thick copper 1 inch wide busbars will exceed anything you can throw at it as it will be rated at least at 200 amps.

          FWIW the bus bars are the least of your concerns, or perhaps mine. What I want to know is just how you plan to integrate Over Current Devices using bus bars.
          Last edited by Sunking; 10-23-2017, 11:40 PM.
          MSEE, PE

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          • Mike90250
            Moderator
            • May 2009
            • 16020

            #20
            Originally posted by dapago
            An other question. What Ah is needed for the busbar for my bank?
            I'd size it for 2x the surge rating of your inverter. AND i'd feed it from the center of the bussbar, not the end

            if the inverter can draw 250A at surge, i'd size the bussbar to 500a
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            • NEOH
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              • Nov 2010
              • 478

              #21
              Originally posted by Mike90250

              I'd size it for 2x the surge rating of your inverter. AND i'd feed it from the center of the bussbar, not the end

              if the inverter can draw 250A at surge, i'd size the bussbar to 500a
              Then, why not opposite ends of the bus bar,
              Inverter (+) @ top of bus bar, near string #1's connection
              Inverter (-) @ bottom of bus bar, near string #3's connection

              Same with CC's

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              • NEOH
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                • Nov 2010
                • 478

                #22
                Originally posted by Sunking

                Does not compute. Busbars are not rated in AH, the are rated in AMPS. The busbar current ratings (Amps) must be equal to or greater than the load imposed on it. If you have at least 1/8 inch thick copper 1 inch wide busbars will exceed anything you can throw at it as it will be rated at least at 200 amps.

                FWIW the bus bars are the least of your concerns, or perhaps mine. What I want to know is just how you plan to integrate Over Current Devices using bus bars.
                Can the OP add a DC Rated Fuse in series with each string ?

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                • dapago
                  Junior Member
                  • Dec 2015
                  • 41

                  #23
                  Originally posted by NEOH

                  Then, why not opposite ends of the bus bar,
                  Inverter (+) @ top of bus bar, near string #1's connection
                  Inverter (-) @ bottom of bus bar, near string #3's connection

                  Same with CC's
                  Will do it as you suggest. My problem is to find the busbar here. Have been calling many electrical supplier AND the very few solar provider, nobody has busbar

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                  Last edited by dapago; 10-24-2017, 12:54 PM.

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                  • dapago
                    Junior Member
                    • Dec 2015
                    • 41

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Sunking

                    Does not compute. Busbars are not rated in AH, the are rated in AMPS. The busbar current ratings (Amps) must be equal to or greater than the load imposed on it. If you have at least 1/8 inch thick copper 1 inch wide busbars will exceed anything you can throw at it as it will be rated at least at 200 amps.

                    FWIW the bus bars are the least of your concerns, or perhaps mine. What I want to know is just how you plan to integrate Over Current Devices using bus bars.
                    My mistake sorry.

                    will try to find 200 amps busbar or may have to order them in the US. Was thinking of using earth bar but apparently (true?) I have been told that they are only brass coated (?)
                    Last edited by dapago; 10-24-2017, 12:44 PM.

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                    • Sunking
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                      • Feb 2010
                      • 23301

                      #25
                      Originally posted by NEOH

                      Can the OP add a DC Rated Fuse in series with each string ?
                      Yes but it needs more OCPD/ As you noted one OCPD on each battery, but there also needs to be OCPD looking at the CC and Load on the buss feeders.
                      MSEE, PE

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                      • NEOH
                        Solar Fanatic
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 478

                        #26
                        Originally posted by dapago

                        Will do it as you suggest. My problem is to find the busbar here. Have been calling many electrical supplier AND the very few solar provider, nobody has busbar
                        Is cadmium-plated solid copper OK ?

                        example: Something like this ...

                        https://www.ebay.com/itm/Solid-Coppe...0AAOSwDNdV3eqG

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                        • Mike90250
                          Moderator
                          • May 2009
                          • 16020

                          #27
                          Originally posted by NEOH
                          Then, why not opposite ends of the bus bar ...
                          usually makes complex cable issues, I like more symmetrical cables.

                          Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                          || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                          || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

                          solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
                          gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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