Going green starting with well water

[BuzzBuds]

I have plans to build a solar panel to run my well pump to start.
I am wanting to set it up with batteries and an inverter I plan to use 165 cells in the one panel with a dimension of 6x5 feet.
what wiring am I going to need.
I figure i will need my panel of coarse, and shut of switch, the batteries, and then the inverter.
Is there someone with some sort of input on what I am missing and what I can expect to gain out of this?

[MarineLiner]

I have plans to build a solar panel to run my well pump to start.
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Is there someone with some sort of input on what I am missing and what I can expect to gain out of this?

[BuzzBuds]

Cool I am glad I ran across you guys I have visited other forums but no one had possitive attatudes on replies cool
well I am thinking 156 cells 3x6 if I configure the cells to produce just 24v and most heavy on amps I think this can be be done by wiring using the combination of seires and Paralle I am tryign to avoid have indavidual pannels so I was thinking on making one pannel and connecting the cells them selve as I would having 2 panels the cells I will be using is 2 bus cells I am not sure of their production figures. I will look them up again and do some math.
I any case I will be mounting this on top of my well house and not sure of inverter I know I am going to loose some on my heat lose but I can counter act that by insulating.
I also will be looking into a solar modified pumps? this might also be possible.

[MarineLiner]

well I am thinking 156 cells 3x6 if I configure the cells to produce just 24v and most heavy on amps I think this can be be done by wiring using the combination of seires and Paralle I am tryign to avoid have indavidual pannels so I was thinking on making one pannel and connecting the cells them selve as I would having 2 panels .....

[BuzzBuds]

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[MarineLiner]

I am unsure if the power consumption
I will get a reading tommorow
I am not good with the math work just yet on figuring the the watt hours needed yet
but I figured this would be a good starting place

[BuzzBuds]

[QUOTE=MarineLiner;9493]

[Mike90250]

Pumping needs 2 things to size the pump, and then the 3rd, TIME, can be factored

Lift (hight or pressure)
Volume (amount of water needed)
These first two have to be known and then you can size the rest of the stuff.

If you can arrange to pump directly from solar, you will be about 75% efficient. If you decide you want batteries, your efficiency drops to 55%

Example:
In my personal situation, I will be using a 0.5 hp pump, for 9GPM, at 160', to 9,000 storage tank. I will only pump on sunny days, about 4-5 hours a day. That gets me 2,160 gallons on a 4 hour day. The water is in a tank farm on a hill, and I just use the pressure from the tank, to do my water needs. After a few days, I'll have all the tanks full, and can last a few cloudy days. Daily needs are only about 200 gallons. Storing the water on a hill, is more efficeint than using batteries to pump in the middle of the night.

[BuzzBuds]

Pumping needs 2 things to size the pump, and then the 3rd, TIME, can be factored

Lift (hight or pressure)
Volume (amount of water needed)
These first two have to be known and then you can size the rest of the stuff.

If you can arrange to pump directly from solar, you will be about 75% efficient. If you decide you want batteries, your efficiency drops to 55%

Example:
In my personal situation, I will be using a 0.5 hp pump, for 9GPM, at 160', to 9,000 storage tank. I will only pump on sunny days, about 4-5 hours a day. That gets me 2,160 gallons on a 4 hour day. The water is in a tank farm on a hill, and I just use the pressure from the tank, to do my water needs. After a few days, I'll have all the tanks full, and can last a few cloudy days. Daily needs are only about 200 gallons. Storing the water on a hill, is more efficeint than using batteries to pump in the middle of the night.

Wo I think you need to calm down there lol big boy I am a little fish here not worth eating or anything I have an acer of land that all and no major hills to flow water down.
If I am going to loose 20% extra for the use of batteries then I just increase my solar capacity right>
?

[MarineLiner]

... I have an acer of land that all and no major hills to flow water down.
If I am going to loose 20% extra for the use of batteries then I just increase my solar capacity right> ?

[MarineLiner]

Example:
... using a 0.5 hp pump, for 9GPM, at 160', to 9,000 storage tank.
I will only pump on sunny days, about 4-5 hours a day. That gets me 2,160 gallons on a 4 hour day. The water is in a tank farm on a hill, and I just use the pressure from the tank, to do my water needs.
After a few days, I'll have all the tanks full, and can last a few cloudy days.
Daily needs are only about 200 gallons.
Storing the water on a hill, is more efficeint than using batteries to pump in the middle of the night.

[Mike90250]

The other alternative, is to use a larger pressure tank, or several even, so that you can use pressureised storage at night, and not have to run the pump. The starting surge of even a small .5 hp motor, will bring most inverters to their knees. And running a motor, you will need pure sine, not modified.

[BuzzBuds]

[QUOTE=MarineLiner;9528]

[BuzzBuds]

I do think a few smaller presurised tanks would do the trick and be adaptable to extend later on with minamal amount of expence.

[NeilTheCop]

The other alternative, is to use a larger pressure tank, or several even, so that you can use pressureised storage at night, and not have to run the pump. The starting surge of even a small .5 hp motor, will bring most inverters to their knees. And running a motor, you will need pure sine, not modified.

What type of pump are you using?