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  • trkinlv
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 3

    #1

    sizing water pump

    hi, i have an old solar water heater panel and i want to make a pool water heater out of it . any ideas about the size of the pump?
  • Mike90250
    Moderator
    • May 2009
    • 16020

    #2
    Just a small taco pump should do it. You don't need a lot of pressure, just enough to get the water flowing.
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    • trkinlv
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 3

      #3
      i solved the pump question, but you mentioned that at forty sq ft my panel wasnt big enough. how much do i need/

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      • Mike90250
        Moderator
        • May 2009
        • 16020

        #4
        Generally, "they" say 50% of the pool surface area. Other wise, you cannot keep up with the nighttime losses.
        Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
        || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
        || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

        solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
        gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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        • MarineLiner
          Solar Skipper
          • May 2009
          • 656

          #5
          Originally posted by trkinlv
          i solved the pump question,
          but you mentioned that at forty sq ft my panel wasnt big enough.
          how much do i need/
          Which pump is it?
          There are two kind of panels now:
          - Solar water heater panel.
          - Solar electric panel for the pump.

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          • Jbergess
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 25

            #6
            Originally posted by trkinlv
            i solved the pump question, but you mentioned that at forty sq ft my panel wasnt big enough. how much do i need/
            Hi Trkinlv,

            You need to figure out how much heat your pool looses on a daily basis. The formula for this is:

            Heat Loss (Per hour) = (Surface heat loss factor)(Temperature Difference)(Surface Area)

            To make this simpler, your surface heat loss factor for sheltered positions with an average wind velocity of 3mph would mean about 5 Btu loss per hour per square foot.

            The temperature difference, or Delta, is simply taking the average low temperature of the air around the pool (during the season you wish to heat the pool) and subtracting it from the temperature you want the pool to be at. For example, if the outside air on average at night during heating season is 60F, and you want the pool to stay at 70F, this is a 10F delta.

            Then, take the above two numbers and multiply them together along with the area of the pool. Therefore, your formula should look something like this:

            Heat Loss = 400sf x 5Btu x 10F
            Heat Loss = 2000Btu/Hr

            So, you would need 48000 Btu/Day to maintain the temperature of a very small, 20' x 20' pool.

            This is, however, different than the BTUs needed to initially heat up the pool from the winter season, but it's a good place to start.

            This site has a lot of good formulas to help as well:



            Hope this helps!
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